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Hi,I've noticed that when ever I mouse over a 2D panel where a help tip appears, the whole screen will momentarly flash white for about 3 seconds and then return to normal. FSX is the only simulator that does this. I've used FS2004 and other previous simulators where I hold the mouse over a 2D panel to get the help tips and this type of flashing doesn't occur. Any help would be appriciated.System specs:Processor: Intel Core2 Duo 6700 (2.67Ghz)Memory: Corsair DDR2 XMS2 6400 1GB (x2)Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (rev.1)Video Card: nVidia Geforce 7600GT KOSound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS

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I had a similar problem when pressing the shift key. I read in the forums a tip about disabling tool tips. I did this and haven't had a problem since. It seems to be a problem with the graphics driver. Until (if) Nvidia issues a fix then this is the work around for me.

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Hi,Any idea how to disable tool-tips then? I can't find anything in the forums on this.

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Hi,Antiailiasing is already disabled - better system preformance anyway. ;)

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Turning off tool tips is located in the Display section of the settings page. In the Cockpit settings section underneath the 3-D and 2-D Cockpit options is a check box for show cockpit tooltips.

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Hi,That did the trick! Thanks! I hope that this bug is fixed in the next patch for FSX.

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>Hi,>>That did the trick! Thanks! I hope that this bug is fixed in>the next patch for FSX.>>It's not a bug in FSX. It's a bug in the video driver.I went back to version 84.xx of the vid driver and there are no problems.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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I get the flashing too and I have an ATI card, so the culprit can only be FSX. Disabling the tooltips worked for me, a shame though as they can be useful!

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Hi,If it were a bug in the video driver, then I'd get this type of flashing on all my other flight simulators (FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, CFS, CFS2, and CFS3). Why then is FSX the only sim in which this flashing occurs then if it isn't a problem with the coding inside FSX? Besides, rabid_david indicates in his post on this thread that he too gets the flashing even when using an ATI card.

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>Hi,>>If it were a bug in the video driver, then I'd get this type>of flashing on all my other flight simulators (FS98, FS2000,>FS2002, FS2004, CFS, CFS2, and CFS3). Why then is FSX the only>sim in which this flashing occurs then if it isn't a problem>with the coding inside FSX? Besides, rabid_david indicates in>his post on this thread that he too gets the flashing even>when using an ATI card.>>If it were a bug in FSX, then why did I switch to an old driver, and the problem went away? ;)RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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It's obvious then that the bug is in FSX and NOT the drivers of any particular video card. This only happens to me on two aircraft, the Kingair and the Baron.

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ok, and why do I have this problem with my ATI card and different drivers in FSX only? Well, not the latest driver for my "old" rig, since I hate to change drivers all the time when they work perfectly otherwise. :) But still....Rodger

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>ok, and why do I have this problem with my ATI card and>different drivers in FSX only? Well, not the latest driver for>my "old" rig, since I hate to change drivers all the time when>they work perfectly otherwise. :) But still....>>RodgerYou answered a question with a question, :) ;)All I can say is, I switched drivers, problem went away, therefore by logic/deductive reasoning it has to be a driver problem on my install.You have a similar card to mine. I suggest you change to the 84.xx series driver and see if that doesn't cure it for you. I think the one I put on my fs rig was 84.21. You can obtain old drivers on the net, if you Google for it.Many times video card makers will add new features to new versions of drivers that have a negative impact on older cards. I think that's what has happened with the newer nVidia drivers.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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Hi,I just swapped out my nvidia geforce 7600gtko for an ATI Radeon X1650 pro, installed the latest ATI drivers from http://ati.amd.com and the problem with the white-flashing of the screen when mousing over 2D panels persists. So... IMHO... it absolutely cannot be a problem with the nvidia driver.. It MUST be a bug in FSX.

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These things are never just the driver or just the application but an unfortunate clash between the two, which could be caused by either one of them behaving in an unexpected way. There's no way application or game developers can test with every single driver out there, particularly ones that haven't been released yet.Having said that, given that the bug is seen with several different drivers and cards, the FSX code does seem to be the most likely target for a fix. I have the problem too and I agree it's annoying.Is it my imagination or did this problem not exist before SP1?Colin

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>Hi,>>I just swapped out my nvidia geforce 7600gtko for an ATI>Radeon X1650 pro, installed the latest ATI drivers from>http://ati.amd.com and the problem with the white-flashing of>the screen when mousing over 2D panels persists. So... IMHO...>it absolutely cannot be a problem with the nvidia driver.. It>MUST be a bug in FSX.>>That is interesting and seems likely the more things are ruled out. However...A couple of things I would try:1) One other thing I would do, is get and install the latest Direct3D redist from Microsoft. I forgot to mention that I *also* did that.2) see if the problem persists with AA turned off.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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It was happening before and after SP1.Not much of a problem as I fly only in the VC, but it is still a pain. Now as far as the drivers goes, this same problem used to cause a CTD, but one of those ATI updates took care of that problem. I guess that is what cured it.What would really be nice to have a tool tips check box for the 2D panels and another tool tips check box for the VC.

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I get the same problem on my Dell D810 laptop with ATI X300 mobility 64 mb graphics card. Except it's not related to tooltips. My problem is with screen overlays (text written on the screen, popping up 2D panels) and when I change attitude quickly in large increments (like when doing a loop it flashes when the nose goes up past the horizon).I don't get this problem on my desktop 8800 GTS 640 mb graphics card system. Funny thing is, tooltips work fine on my laptop (and 8800).I feel like it is a relatively new problem, and am afraid I changed some setting somewhere, either on my graphics card or in FSX. But I've tried everything I can think of and nothing has fixed it.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180

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It seems related to loading of the proper font for tooltips. Look closely to the font type when a tooltip appears, it has to be a very small font. Sometimes its a bit different and bit bigger, and then the if you click it the flashing will appear.Regards, Gerrit

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>It seems related to loading of the proper font for tooltips.>Look closely to the font type when a tooltip appears, it has>to be a very small font. Sometimes its a bit different and bit>bigger, and then the if you click it the flashing will>appear.>>Regards, >>GerritHi,I don't have to click anything to get the flashing to appear. All I have to do is move my mouse over a 2D panel and let the tool-tip appear. After it appears, about a half-second later i'll get the flashing. So the tool-tip is only visible for about a half-second before the flashing occurs.I'm not sure what you say about it loading the proper font for the tool-tip - a half-second is too fast for me to really notice what kind of font is being used.

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>1) One other thing I would do, is get and install the latest>Direct3D redist from Microsoft. I forgot to mention that I>*also* did that.>>2) see if the problem persists with AA turned off.Hi,I just downloaded/installed the August 2007 D3D redist from Microsoft and tested for the tool-tip flashing - still there. :(As for AA, I always have that turned off anyway for better graphics performance.

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Hi Joshua,maybe it happened only when moving over a gauge, i can't recall exactly because it hasn't happened for a long time. Since i changed from the default planes to add-on ones i think. But for me i'm sure, it was related to the font of the tooltip. So maybe it helps to change something in font setting, like from standard to cleartype or vice-versa.edit:A while ago i also changed my habits from starting the sim in fullscreen to starting it in windowed mode and then switch to full screen. That might be another solution. Just for what it's worth :)Regards, Gerrit

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>>I don't have to click anything to get the flashing to appear.>All I have to do is move my mouse over a 2D panel and let the>tool-tip appear. After it appears, about a half-second later>i'll get the flashing. Yes that is just what I was seeing. Try installing an older video card driver, like I did...and see if that solves it.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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