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Having major stuttering upon arrival? Take the poll!

Are you still having major stuttering upon arrival, despite ample Mainthread/GPU/VRAM headroom?  

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  1. 1. Are you still having major stuttering upon arrival, despite ample Mainthread/GPU/VRAM headroom?

    • Yes, most of the time
      34
    • Yes, less than half the time
      19
    • Yes, but very infrequently
      24
    • Rarely if ever
      76
  2. 2. Did you experience a major change for the worse in this issue with SU12?

    • Yep
      33
    • Nope
      120


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Unfortunately, I had to remove Mamudesigns "powerlines" and "chair lifts" freeware (Fsim.to) after SU12. That helped a lot.

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3 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Lower settings = problem solved.

 

Not for me, at all, I tested in VR the lowest possible and all I could set off, fs2002 looked much much better, with a resolution of 1280x12xx, and the same weird stutters, till, I disabled Multiplayer and Live Weather in Sim DATA options and did a Sim reboot, nothing in Community and all those folders cleaning indexes sceneries, content.xml, Caches folders etc. etc.

 

Where is or has that really weird stutter problem, I don´t know, I bet that not my fault.

 

Even I had uninstalled/disabled the paid and W Defender Antiviruses seeking the culprit haha, and more things....

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I have been having major stutters and then realised my Off-Screen cache was set to Ultra.  No sure how that happened.

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4 hours ago, rayharris108 said:

In my experience this is heavily dependent on my settings, which plane and which airport

The "this" for me is different:  as in the title this issue is in context of having large headroom in GPU/CPU main thread/VRAM, whereas with particular planes/airports I see this if settings were too high for conditions, for example T-LOD so high the main thread becomes overloaded, so yes the situation I'm describing is very different.


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2 hours ago, ErichB said:

I have been having major stutters and then realised my Off-Screen cache was set to Ultra.  No sure how that happened.

I always thought setting it to ultra was preventing stutters?


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2 hours ago, ErichB said:

I have been having major stutters and then realised my Off-Screen cache was set to Ultra.  No sure how that happened.

And changing it from Ultra fixed the stutters?


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15 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Lower settings = problem solved.

 

In most cases, yes. For me at least the problem can.....not always....but can happen on final or right before flare. Regardless of plane, settings, scenery.

 


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16 hours ago, Alvega said:

And changing it from Ultra fixed the stutters?

I actually ended updating my Nvidia driver and resetting a number of other settings.   Overall much smoother but can't specifically be attributed to the OSC

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Well, of the 4 possible causes mentioned above I've not been able to pin-point WHY it's big time back to normal.  So they're all still in effect after various rule-out tests were done.  My guess is maybe it's the spawning of non-generic planes*** (hence the random nature) but that doesn't really jive well w/ the fact ample main thread headroom remains when the big degradation commences.  I can say I'm back to sterling frametime variance once again so back to enjoying the heck out of MSFS ;o)

***https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/633596-having-major-stuttering-upon-arrival-take-the-poll/?do=findComment&comment=4956671

 


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54 minutes ago, Noel said:

Well, of the 4 possible causes mentioned above I've not been able to pin-point WHY it's big time back to normal.  So they're all still in effect after various rule-out tests were done.  My guess is maybe it's the spawning of non-generic planes*** (hence the random nature) but that doesn't really jive well w/ the fact ample main thread headroom remains when the big degradation commences.  I can say I'm back to sterling frametime variance once again so back to enjoying the heck out of MSFS ;o)

***https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/633596-having-major-stuttering-upon-arrival-take-the-poll/?do=findComment&comment=4956671

 

Glad to see things have settled down Noel. Did you return everything back to pre SU12 or have you made permanent changes?


 

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54 minutes ago, Noel said:

Well, of the 4 possible causes mentioned above I've not been able to pin-point WHY it's big time back to normal.  So they're all still in effect after various rule-out tests were done.  My guess is maybe it's the spawning of non-generic planes*** (hence the random nature) but that doesn't really jive well w/ the fact ample main thread headroom remains when the big degradation commences.  I can say I'm back to sterling frametime variance once again so back to enjoying the heck out of MSFS ;o)

***https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/633596-having-major-stuttering-upon-arrival-take-the-poll/?do=findComment&comment=4956671

 

Glad to see things have settled down Noel. Did you return everything back to pre SU12 or have you made permanent changes?


 

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2 hours ago, RJC68 said:

Glad to see things have settled down Noel. Did you return everything back to pre SU12 or have you made permanent changes?

Just kept the 4 things mentioned above that are different from pre SU12 and so far all's well again.

Thanks!


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On 5/3/2023 at 8:21 PM, Ricardo41 said:

Lower settings = problem solved.

 

Wrong!

even lowering settings issue persists in some cases.

For me on a 7950x3d  and 3080ti tested every setting on low as I thought my settings were too “high”

and it was a slide show on approach and on ground with AI FSTL on and off.

 

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