12 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Good post and I may have come off a little strong, I apologize. I will say, in case you ever want to mess around with your CPU, you can easily set the SOC voltage manually to 1.15 - 1.20 and see lower temperatures. Very easy to do, as just applying an EXPO profile sets it way higher than it need be. The X3D chips don't offer much headroom in terms of tweaking and dialing in, you can get it set up in less than 5 minutes, so there's very little knowledge or skill required 😄 The X3D chips are still extremely efficient. The 7800X3D drawing less than 80w, which is incredible for its performance. The additional heat just comes from the cache on the die providing a layer that makes it harder to keep cool but that extra heat isn't like other chip's heat, where it's pure wattage that needs dissipation.

 

Yeah, it's a post asking for upgrade help so of course suggestions from other brands will be mentioned. It's not uncommon for people to have brand preferences or just want to stick to what they know -- Because Intel has been a stable within the sim community for decades. Doesn't mean you can't show that in fact there's an objectively better choice now through the X3D chips. And thinking it's some agenda is hilarious, when it's objectively the best CPU for MSFS by a country mile. Literally how help and suggestions on the internet goes, you show people the benchmarks and give them information why another choice might be better and then they can make their decision. So you're "noticing" this because the X3D CPUs are head and heels above whatever Intel has in terms of MSFS.

Seth, please read again "It will intel to intel upgrade."

Yes, X3D CPU's are best for MSFS, we've heard it form you over and over and over and............of course there's an agenda.

"So you're "noticing" this because the X3D CPUs are head and heels above whatever Intel has in terms of MSFS."

Actually I was "noticing" the AMD evangelical statements you and others make. You are assuming again.

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Edited June 14, 20232 yr by mokeiko

6 minutes ago, mokeiko said:

Seth, please read again "It will intel to intel upgrade."

Yes, X3D CPU's are best for MSFS, we've heard it form you over and over and over and............

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mokeiko, read and comprehend again;  "It's not uncommon for people to have brand preferences or just want to stick to what they know -- Because Intel has been a stable within the sim community for decades." So if you're not hardware savvy, it can be quite common to stick to what you know because you haven't done any research into alternatives, because AMD has never really been a viable alternative. So you'd have to be new to the internet if you think that short sentence means you simply can't discuss alternatives and show them there's a potential other path now. People stick to Intel because Intel was the only viable choice and you can see by the amount of emotional 13900K users in this thread alone, that old adage is hard to shake.

6 minutes ago, mokeiko said:

Actually I was "noticing" the AMD evangelical statements you make.

Ah yes, here we go. Another 13900K owner getting emotional. It's almost like a plague in this thread. This is my very first consumer AMD CPU ever, surprisingly and yet the swarm of 13900K owners getting upset is apparently a normal reaction 👌

 

 

Edited June 14, 20232 yr by Sethos

1 minute ago, Sethos said:

mokeiko, read and comprehend again;  "It's not uncommon for people to have brand preferences or just want to stick to what they know -- Because Intel has been a stable within the sim community for decades." So if you're not hardware savvy, it can be quite common to stick to what you know because you haven't done any research into alternatives, because AMD has never really been a viable alternative. So you'd have to be new to the internet if you think that short sentence means you simply can't discuss alternatives and show them there's a potential other path now. People stick to Intel because Intel was the only viable choice and you can see by the amount of emotional 13900K users in this thread alone, that old adage is hard to shake.

I used to own Intel then AMD and switched back to Intel. I think I can comprehend well enough. Have a nice day brother.

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12 hours ago, mokeiko said:

Maybe because of choice. Some people buy Toyota and some by Nissan. Pushing agendas showing graphs and videos won't change their choice.

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This is more like Nissan VS Mercedes with Nissan being more expensive and fuel hungry.