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GSX Gives a touchdown stutter

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Hello everyone,

My system: 4090, 13900k, 32gv ddr5 ram. Using frame generation.

I have posted this finding on the GSX forum, But have not really managed to get an overall conclusion to it yet so i wanted to share here to see if anybody else can share some input.

If i have GSX linked and active in the community folder i get a brief pause / stutter as soon as i touchdown.

I have tried this test with many different flights with different aircraft and it will only happen if GSX is installed.

One of the replies i had on the forum is it can't be GSX because unless you pre-select a gate then nothing loads. I can fully understand this and that is why i am extremely baffled at why it is causing the brief pause on touchdown.

I thought it might be a good idea to get some more brains in on the issue. I am at a total loss here.

Does anybody have any idea as to why when having GSX installed it will give that stutter on touchdown? I can't work out what would cause it.

I would be super super grateful if anybody would be able to help me figure this out so i can use GSX and not have that stutter.

Thank you.

Did you already select a gate before landing?

Because GSX cause a stutter when loading all the ground equipment upon landing.

Why precisely do you think its GSX?  Have you tested (repeatedly) without GSX running to conclude it seems most likely culprit?

I use GSX every flight and can't say this is the case.  In my view stutters on touchdown are more likely the scenery being used or low FPS, spikes in FPS as wheels touch down.

With your rig I assume you have everything to the right in the settings, my suggestion would be leave GSX running but run a low-med setting in the sim and see what happens.  If this eradicates the stutter its likely your settings or a combination of settings are too high. I'd also run some tests into default airfields with GSX/Without GSX in combination with different settings the sim (low/med etc).

 

Thomas Derbyshire

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4 minutes ago, rob0203 said:

Did you already select a gate before landing?

Because GSX cause a stutter when loading all the ground equipment upon landing.

I have tried it with both selecting a gate and not selecting a gate

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4 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

Why precisely do you think its GSX?  Have you tested (repeatedly) without GSX running to conclude it seems most likely culprit?

I use GSX every flight and can't say this is the case.  In my view stutters on touchdown are more likely the scenery being used or low FPS, spikes in FPS as wheels touch down.

With your rig I assume you have everything to the right in the settings, my suggestion would be leave GSX running but run a low-med setting in the sim and see what happens.  If this eradicates the stutter its likely your settings or a combination of settings are too high. I'd also run some tests into default airfields with GSX/Without GSX in combination with different settings the sim (low/med etc).

 

hey,

Oh i have spent many hours on this. Without GSX enabled it does not stutter at all, at any airport. With GSX active it happens. It is incredibly smooth unless GSX is installed and then i get that slight pause on touchdown.

GSX has always caused a stutter when landing even way back when in P3D, its loading in its objects , ive never seen or read a way around it 

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I don't have any stutter on touchdown, and I use GSX. GSX doesn't load anything before you select a gate, so it can't be that.

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18 minutes ago, sonny147 said:

GSX has always caused a stutter when landing even way back when in P3D, its loading in its objects , ive never seen or read a way around it 

Has it?

I can't recall having it with P3D. I was told on the forum that GSX doesn't load or do anything until selected. But in my situation, after many many hours of testing in different settings / situations, GSX being active in the sim causes that stutter. Its not the end of the world, but it ruins the immersion of the final part of the flight.

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Just now, Fiorentoni said:

I don't have any stutter on touchdown, and I use GSX. GSX doesn't load anything before you select a gate, so it can't be that.

For me, It really can't be anything else other than GSX. I have tried many many different combinations of different things and it will only do it as soon as i re link GSX to the sim.

18 minutes ago, Mejjo said:

For me, It really can't be anything else other than GSX. I have tried many many different combinations of different things and it will only do it as soon as i re link GSX to the sim.

Is GSX installed on the same drive as your sim?

Thomas Derbyshire

i aways select the gate below 10000, sometimes it can be during the taxi in but always does it always has for me anyway 

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35 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

Is GSX installed on the same drive as your sim?

Its not nope. I did install it on my sim drive when i was doing a test but it did not make a different.

 

Try deactivating GSX by deselecting it in the pull-down menu at top center of the screen (when deselected it should not be highlighted in white).  I remember reading that GSX does use resources when active...I vaguely recall that Umberto recommended deselecting it after pushback is complete and then reactivating it after landing if you're having issues.

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7 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

Try deactivating GSX by deselecting it in the pull-down menu at top center of the screen (when deselected it should not be highlighted in white).  I remember reading that GSX does use resources when active...I vaguely recall that Umberto recommended deselecting it after pushback is complete and then reactivating it after landing if you're having issues.

Thank you, Bob.

This is something I have not tried yet so I will give it a go and report back. 

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21 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

Try deactivating GSX by deselecting it in the pull-down menu at top center of the screen (when deselected it should not be highlighted in white).  I remember reading that GSX does use resources when active...I vaguely recall that Umberto recommended deselecting it after pushback is complete and then reactivating it after landing if you're having issues.

Hi Bob,

I have spent some time today testing with what you suggested and unfortunately i still get that pause on touchdown after completing flights.

I have absolutely no idea what could be causing it and what makes it more tricky is with it only happening with GSX installed. I'm aware GSX doesn't do anything until selecting a gate so it makes it very hard to actually pin-point.

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