September 19, 20232 yr I am learning the Fokker F28 in MSFS2020. Is there a way to select routes and SIDS and STARS which are not GPS based but solely NDB and/or VOR based? In Navigraph, or Little Navmap, or another source maybe? Regards, René MS FS 2020/2024 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 6000mhz | ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090 32GB GDDR7 OC EDITION | Varjo Aero | Navigraph | VATSIM | TPR Pedals | Virpil | Honeycomb | Winwing FCU + EFIS | Behringer X Touch Mini | SPAD.next
September 19, 20232 yr Some airfields have non-RNAV departures, but are usually just climbing to some altitude and fly a heading; expecting radar vectors to your first fix. I've been flying the F28 a lot and it is difficult to find a navigatable route using Simbrief/Navigraph. Simbrief route finder has an option for VOR only routes and that helps. I don't bother with SIDS/STARS and usually build a VOR to VOR route as best I can. This works in most areas, but keeps you very busy. Another problem, as you know, is many approaches have a IAF that is RNAV based. So, a lot of ad lib action is required. Richard Chafey i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200 - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals MSFS 2020, DCS
September 19, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Rene_Feijen said: I am learning the Fokker F28 in MSFS2020. Is there a way to select routes and SIDS and STARS which are not GPS based but solely NDB and/or VOR based? In Navigraph, or Little Navmap, or another source maybe? Regards, René There is a VOR only option in Simbrief. Otherwise, you can use Skyvector to plot your route of flight via airways in the US: SkyVector: Flight Planning / Aeronautical Charts. Navigraph will allow you to do same thing. In the US, look at the back of the Jeppesen 10-9 chart for the IFR Obstacle Departure Procedure. If there is terrain or obstacles that prevent an omni-directional departure, then it will the procedure and perhaps a VOR or NDB from which to begin the en route portion of the flight. With these older, VOR only airplanes, you have to come up with route of flight yourself. That's half the fun of flying these older aircraft. Rich Boll Richard Boll Wichita, KS
September 20, 20232 yr A number of UK airfields have non RNAV SIDS, Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester (EGLL EGKK EGCC), and I'm sure others too.
November 7, 20232 yr Commercial Member I used to fly the DC-6 in MSFS using only VOR navigation. At that time, I liked to use the route finder feature with the VOR-only option in SimBrief, which I found to be quite useful.
November 15, 20232 yr Hello. Oh, cool. Very useful for me, especially the tip to use Skyvector to build my flight route for US airlines.
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