December 1, 20232 yr I currently have a Dell XPS 8930 Desktop for my MSFS. It has a GForce GTX 1050 ti card now, and it isn't working as the program shuts off after just a short (20-30 seconds) time. So, I'm looking for a new graphics card that will fit in my Computer. Something in the 200-350 dollar range is what I can afford. I have no idea how to understand all the specifications on each card to know if I should buy. Also I don't know how to find out if it will fit. The Dell site is absolutely no help at all. Also, I have 16gb RAM. Would it help to upgrade to 32gb? Any help someone can give would be much appreciated. Gary
December 1, 20232 yr Are you sure that your gpu is at fault? As for memory, 16 MB is fine. Overheating maybe? Bert
December 1, 20232 yr Whilst a 1050Ti is an underpowered GPU by today's standards, it is certainly compatible with MSFS. If MSFS were struggling with it, you'd be likely to see low frame rates and stuttering, rather than a prgram just quitting. So I agree with Bert - it sounds more likely that something else is causing the problem. Does anything else occur, that leads you to think that it is the graphics card? If you did decide to upgrade and would consider a used card, you would likely get something like a used RTX 2070 for within your budget. That would be quite a big step up compared to a 1050. If you insist on a new card, your budget might not get you into a significantly better territory than your current card. Graphics cards are overpriced these days, although the prices have come down a little more recently. This is what Google has to say, for a budget of $300:- https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what+graphics+card+will+I+get+for+%24300%3F Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
December 1, 20232 yr Make sure the card fits in your pc case before buying! Also that you have the required power connector... Bert
December 2, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: As for memory, 16 MB is fine. Make that 16 GB.. 🤫 Edited December 2, 20232 yr by Bert Pieke Bert
December 2, 20232 yr Author Thanks guys. What I'm really concerned about is the card fitting in my computer. I called Dell, and they want to sell me one that's about 3X as much as anywhere else, and they won't tell me any other card that will fit. Also, the Specs on these cards is really greek, or russian or something. My monitior I just ordered is a curved LG 34" ultra-wide and Says the resolution is 3440X1440. So the Graphix Card will have to work with it. Also, as for the speed, and all the other information, that's where I'm lost. Here's an example and what I don't understand: Radeon HD 5450 Low Profile Graphics Card, 2GB GDDR3 64-bit, HDMI DVI-I VGA, PCI Express x16, DirectX 11, Video Card for PC, Computer GPU, 2 Monitors Support Oh, the computer has a 850W power supply, so it's probably big enough, huh? Is there any way to find out what is compatable with my computer? I guess the rest of it I can probably get from the dealer. Edited December 2, 20232 yr by wyodeacon
December 2, 20232 yr Author 4 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: Make sure the card fits in your pc case before buying! Also that you have the required power connector... Can I find that out, or do I just have to open the computer and measure? The power connector does not come with the unit? Good to know (Upon reading further about my computer, it sounds like it comes with a 4pin and an 8pin cable already installed.) Edited December 2, 20232 yr by wyodeacon
December 2, 20232 yr Author 5 hours ago, JYW said: Whilst a 1050Ti is an underpowered GPU by today's standards, it is certainly compatible with MSFS. If MSFS were struggling with it, you'd be likely to see low frame rates and stuttering, rather than a prgram just quitting. So I agree with Bert - it sounds more likely that something else is causing the problem. Thank you. I actually have just begun using this program and haven't gotten far enough to see any frame rates as yet. But just loading an airtliner on the runway, and pushing FLY, it struggles and then just gives up and goes black. I do have this installed on an external SSD, (4tb) and wonder if that could also be part of the problem? If so, I can re-install it on my C:\ Drive which is a 2tb SSD and will handle it fine.
December 2, 20232 yr yep that would be your issues being installed on a external drive, some one else will confirm this as well since iam using a 1080ti card and msfs runs fine I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
December 2, 20232 yr Author So, the question is: Is there some way to move it to my C Drive, or do I have to uninstall and start over? I got it from Microsoft Store, and can download again, but really don't want to.
December 2, 20232 yr you can move it to another drive hopefully @Bert Pieke will chime in here , confused now i seen you have already posted on how to move msfs to another drive https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/638937-can-i-download-msfs-into-a-different-drive-4tb-ssd/ Edited December 2, 20232 yr by pete_auau I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
December 2, 20232 yr 13 hours ago, wyodeacon said: Thank you. I actually have just begun using this program and haven't gotten far enough to see any frame rates as yet. But just loading an airtliner on the runway, and pushing FLY, it struggles and then just gives up and goes black. I do have this installed on an external SSD, (4tb) and wonder if that could also be part of the problem? If so, I can re-install it on my C:\ Drive which is a 2tb SSD and will handle it fine. I would definitely suspect that the crash is caused by MSFS running from an external drive. It's great that you've now identified that as the likely cause. I'd imagine that, as long as you're not looking for blistering performance and high graphics settings, your 1050Ti will be able to run MSFS = money saved! I'm not sure how to go about moving your MSFS installation onto another (internal) drive. It may well be possible and hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in. Me, I'd be tempted to take it on the chin and do an uninstall then reinstall. MSFS is very fussy on installations. Keep us posted, I really hope you can get it running once you've got it installed onto your C/: drive. Edited December 2, 20232 yr by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
December 2, 20232 yr Author 11 hours ago, pete_auau said: you can move it to another drive hopefully @Bert Pieke will chime in here , confused now i seen you have already posted on how to move msfs to another drive https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/638937-can-i-download-msfs-into-a-different-drive-4tb-ssd/ That thread was never really completed. I, at that time was trying to figure out how to install it to another drive, as it automatically installed to my C:\. Then, upon re-installing, it suddenly asked where I wanted it installed and that's when I chose H:\. It went fine, and it's installed there now. So, I hope that helps your confusion. Sorry about the mixup. I guess I may just Do what JYW said: 1 hour ago, JYW said: I'm not sure how to go about moving your MSFS installation onto another (internal) drive. It may well be possible and hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in. Me, I'd be tempted to take it on the chin and do an uninstall then reinstall. MSFS is very fussy on installations. Keep us posted, I really hope you can get it running once you've got it installed onto your C/: drive. Thanks everyone for your advice and suggestions. As I have ordered a new curved monitor I will probably go ahead with a larger graphics card, but that's in the future now.
December 3, 20232 yr Author Ok, here's the latest, and why I need a new GPU. I uninstalled MSFS from my H:\ Drive, and re-installed on my C\ Drive. I then proceeded to load the updates (Premium-Deluxe) overnight. When I got up this morning there was an error message that the program had Graphics problems and would not continue. I re-loaded and it stopped part way telling me to update my GPU drivers because they were insufficient. (I did a screen copy of the message, then told it to continue, but when I went to paste it, it wasn't there. I don't know what I did wrong other than continuing before checking it.) So, no screen copy to show you. I checked my driver and it's the latest, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it. 🙂 That's why I need a GPU.
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