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Learjet climbing manually IAS Mode, FD too high

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First I have to say, I love this piece of software, the Learjet flies smootly and it´s big fun also regarding handflying.

The only concern I have is, when climbing using IAS and flying manually, the Flight Director shows too high pitch, if I would follow it, I´d lose speed, which I shouldn´t.

That way I have to fly "below the Flight Director". 

Using Autopilot I realized it´s pitching up, catching the FD, losing some speed, then pitching down to the correct position for keeping speed during climb.

That´s different to the manually flown version, where the FD keeps it high pitch.

Anyone else noticed it? Is it an issue of the plane or did I miss something?

Regards, Herbert

By the way, me and a friend are soon finishing a complete Learjet 35A Air Manager panel, see Sim Innovations Forum...

Edited by Puukka

Herbert Puukka

X-Plane 12 - King Air C90, PA-46, Air Manager

With the autopilot off, try using the Sync FD button on the right side of the yoke to align the FD with the current aircraft pitch.

Al

Is there a source listing assignable buttons and so on for the FSW Lear?

I've looked and even looked at the P3D version documents and didn't find anything.

(sorry for the hijack but this post got me thinking about the Lear)

 

Richard Chafey

 

i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200  - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals

MSFS 2020, DCS

 

Thank you for the link.

Was hoping to find a list. Like in the old days lol

Can't deal with discord...I've tried.

Edited by RichieFly

Richard Chafey

 

i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200  - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals

MSFS 2020, DCS

 

47 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

Was hoping to find a list. Like in the old days lol

Here's some control assignments FSW set up using available (unused) MSFS default control bindings.

MANUV BUTTON (RHS YOKE) —
MANUV BUTTON : {bound to} : SMOKE ON (ON PRESS)
MANUV BUTTON : {bound to} : SMOKE OFF (ON RELEASE)

STEER LOCK BUTTON 1 (center console white STEER LOCK button replacement) —
STEER LOCK BUTTON : {bound to} : TOGGLE TAIL HOOK HANDLE

STEER LOCK BUTTON 2 (RED  BUTTON ON LHS OF YOKE) —

STEER BUTTON : {bound to} : G LIMITER ON (ON PRESS)
STEER BUTTON : {bound to} : G LIMITER OFF (ON RELEASE)

Make sure you get the on press and on release correct. MSFS also doesn't set 'on release' on first attempt to set it so set this bit up twice

Stock commands used for the sync pitch button.

 

Edited by ark

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7 hours ago, ark said:

With the autopilot off, try using the Sync FD button on the right side of the yoke to align the FD with the current aircraft pitch.

Al

Thanks, but the FD Sync button disengages the IAS Mode. Regulary the IAS Mode is as the FLC or SPEED Mode and should control the pitch to maintain the speed.

When descending the FD in IAS Mode works fine, when climbing it don´t work properly when flying manually.

Regards, Herbert

Herbert Puukka

X-Plane 12 - King Air C90, PA-46, Air Manager

53 minutes ago, Puukka said:

When descending the FD in IAS Mode works fine, when climbing it don´t work properly when flying manually.

When climbing with the autopilot off in SPD mode how does the FD not work properly?

 

 

 

Edited by ark

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As stated, when flying manually, you select the autopilot modes as usually without engaging it, that way you are on track when keeping the FD centered. 
Selecting IAS during climb means you can keep a specific thrust and the FD shows you the pitch to maintain the speed. 
Not here, the FD shows too high pitch and the speed decreases.

Herbert Puukka

X-Plane 12 - King Air C90, PA-46, Air Manager

14 hours ago, Puukka said:

the FD shows too high pitch and the speed decreases.

What panel are you using -- what GPS? I'm asking that because the different GPS versions of the Lear use a different autopilot code For example, with the GNS530 panel, the autopilot developed by WT is used. It would be helpful to know if you see the same FD problem as above using the GNS530 version of the Lear even though the AP is off.

Al

 

 

Edited by ark

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Hi Al

Thanks a lot for your help, that´s interesting, I did some test flights.....only the TDS 750 version seems to have this issue! I´ve only flown this version till now.

GNS 530 and PMS 750 worked nicely.

Regards, Herbert

 

Edited by Puukka

Herbert Puukka

X-Plane 12 - King Air C90, PA-46, Air Manager

On 2/5/2024 at 3:38 PM, Puukka said:

Thanks a lot for your help, that´s interesting, I did some test flights.....only the TDS 750 version seems to have this issue! I´ve only flown this version till now.

Should be fixed in the next update of the Ler35A.

Al

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Great news, thanks a lot, what a great support for a great product.

Regards, Herbert

Edited by Puukka

Herbert Puukka

X-Plane 12 - King Air C90, PA-46, Air Manager

On 2/4/2024 at 10:06 PM, RichieFly said:

Can't deal with discord...I've tried.

I am with you on this one. I refuse to even attempt to access anything Discord any more. I wonder if all of these developers that insist on using it realize how much they isolate a big portion of their customer base by insisting on Discord only support. :0(

Kerry W. Gipe
Savannah Georgia, USA
US FAA A&P / Commercial Pilot Multi Engine Land IFR

Your talent is a gift from God. How you use your talent is your gift back to God.

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Many thanks to the developer team of Flysimware, IAS Mode FD works nicely after an update which only toolk few days!

Meanwhile the first download of our Air Manager Panel is available at the Sim Innovations Forum.

The only two variables we were missing are one for the ASI Barber Pole, and the feedback variable of the Hydraulic Pump Switch.

The HYDRAULIC PUMP Switch now sends fs2020_event("HYDRAULIC_SWITCH_TOGGLE", 3), thats fine, but I need a variable to get our switch to the right position, something as HYDRAULIC SWITCH "Bool"...or the same variable HYDRAULIC_SWITCH_TOGGLE as a bool.

Thanks again and regards from Austria,

Herbert

Edited by Puukka

Herbert Puukka

X-Plane 12 - King Air C90, PA-46, Air Manager

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