February 28, 20242 yr 10 minutes ago, threexgreen said: What yoke do you have? I have yokes and rudder pedals that were removed from a 737 out in the grave yard in Arizona. I'd have to look at the encoder to check the type being used. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
February 28, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said: I have yokes and rudder pedals that were removed from a 737 out in the grave yard in Arizona. I'd have to look at the encoder to check the type being used. Oh okay, I was asking more about manufacturer like FSC or Jetmax but that would be Boeing.
February 28, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said: I have yokes and rudder pedals that were removed from a 737 out in the grave yard in Arizona. I'd have to look at the encoder to check the type being used. Lots of people here are focusing on the flight controls, but I can't see how these would cause the gross differences in behavior that you're observing compared to what other people are reporting. I do think though that there could be something in your sim settings that could be affecting the PMDG's behavior in the flare. Just a stab in the dark: Can you confirm that your flight model (in Settings / General Options / Flight Model) is set to "Modern", not "Legacy"?
February 28, 20242 yr 40 minutes ago, martinboehme said: Lots of people here are focusing on the flight controls, but I can't see how these would cause the gross differences in behavior that you're observing compared to what other people are reporting. I do think though that there could be something in your sim settings that could be affecting the PMDG's behavior in the flare. Just a stab in the dark: Can you confirm that your flight model (in Settings / General Options / Flight Model) is set to "Modern", not "Legacy"? Hi, I've tried multiple settings Modern, Legacy, then on to Realistic, Intermediate and FSX. I've also tried with and without FSUPIC7. My big issue now is with the latest update, between black frozen screen to (when I can get it running) controls are way too sensitive, feels like I'm in a fighter jet. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
February 28, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said: Hi, I've tried multiple settings Modern, Legacy, then on to Realistic, Intermediate and FSX. I've also tried with and without FSUPIC7. My big issue now is with the latest update, between black frozen screen to (when I can get it running) controls are way too sensitive, feels like I'm in a fighter jet. Sorry to hear that. In any case, the flight model should be set to "Modern" -- this is the setting that the PMDG was designed for, anything else will give unexpected behavior.
February 28, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said: I've tried multiple settings Modern, Legacy, then on to Realistic, Intermediate and FSX. Sounds like you might be conflating flight model settings with turbulence settings. The former only has two settings of 'Modern' or 'Legacy'. Turbulence has three settings of which one is 'Realistic'. And where did you see options for 'Intermediate' and 'FSX'? Edited February 28, 20242 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
February 29, 20242 yr 20 hours ago, martinboehme said: Lots of people here are focusing on the flight controls, but I can't see how these would cause the gross differences in behavior that you're observing compared to what other people are reporting. Simply because different sensitivity or reactivity settings can completely alter the way the sim aircraft responds to the same control input. You may pull back on your physical yoke, and the rest is purely down to how the sim translates that to the aircraft. Different settings can completely change how far or quickly the nose will rise. With very sensitive settings for example, you may have the impression you're making a very conservative flight control input, yet the aircraft responds much stronger than you expect, and you're wondering why you just overflared. When I got my yoke and adjusted settings the PMDG went from twitchy and unpleasant to fly to not twitchy at all and very precise in control. With some of the settings I tested before concluding with the settings I'm using ever since I'm sure I would have had trouble flaring. This might not be the culprit in this case but it's worth a try to see if people are unintentionally making control inputs greater than expected.
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