Hi,

I am still on a low end PC so was just curies to what your night settings is . 

 

What effects (or less actually)  boost performance at night ?

 

Thanks

Michael Moe

I don't change anything for night. This is not P3D and its FPS-eating dynamic lighting.

Edited March 15, 20242 yr by Fiorentoni

Ok thanks. I am still struggling with climb altitude performance. Strangely enough performance is way better with FSIPanel on approach so i suspect some kind of memory leak or so.

Michael Moe 

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by Michael Moe

Try the AutoFPS v0.4.2 full release from yesterday.  It's a total game changer for MSFS2020, and Asobo has even taken positive notice of it in their official forum.  I've tried it for the past several beta releases and the current non-beta full release works wonders for MSFS2020 performance.  Yes, I use it for night flights in just the way you are asking about.

For night flights just tell it to use a reduced OLOD (Object Level Of Detail) setting than you would during daytime flights. You don't have to reduce any SLIDER settings in the MSFS2020 Graphics settings page for OLOD or TLOD (Terrain Level of Detail) from your normal choices that you would want for daytime flights. AutoFPS will also automatically manage your CLOUDS level of detail setting from what you set it for in the simulator.  Once you "learn" all the possible combinations of settings with the AutoFPS app (it's simple...just start the app and type in your chosen values in the GUI window that opens on you screen) for different flight environments you could just create you own "cheat sheet" to remember what settings work best for you and your computer hardware for different flying conditions, then enter those values before you start the flight in MSFS.

For night flights, you "normally" would want to reduce the LOD of OBJECTS (OLOD) on the ground, unless you are buzzing someplace like New York City at 1000 feet.  This can increase your FPS significantly if you are using "older" hardware.  AutoFPS will automatically reduce OLOD (the "detail" of ground objects) for you as you climb after takeoff, and will also reapply your higher OLOD setting as you descend for landing (so your ground objects will start rendering at a higher LOD again as you get lower). And if necessary it will reduce your TLOD as a "tradeoff"...but that makes perfect sense as the lower you get the "less far" you really need to see details of ground TEXTURES (the TLOD setting).  You can manually choose at what altitude(s) you want these things to happen using "Expert" mode, or use the "easy" "Auto Target FPS" option to select a reasonable result for you automatically. Note you can ALSO use "Auto Target FPS" AND "Expert" mode at the same time, but I'll let you read the README file for more info on that.

And it does a whole bunch of other things to automatically improve your sim performance at a given FPS rate you tell it to maintain.  Stops stuttering, scenery texture tearing, etc. 

Link to the new thread for the (new full) version of the app posted yesterday:  MSFS 2020 Auto FPS App v0.4.2 - Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) - The AVSIM Community   (NOTE:  READ the Readme file using the link in the first post of the thread BEFORE you install it or try to use it, just to avoid confusion.

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by FalconAF
Clarification

43 minutes ago, FalconAF said:

Try the AutoFPS v0.1.4 full release from yesterday.  It's a total game changer for MSFS2020, and Asobo has even taken positive notice of it in their official forum.  I've tried it for the past several beta releases and the current non-beta full release works wonders for MSFS2020 performance.  Yes, I use it for night flights in just the way you are asking about.

For night flights just tell it to use a reduced OLOD (Object Level Of Detail) setting than you would during daytime flights. You don't have to reduce any SLIDER settings in the MSFS2020 Graphics settings page for OLOD or TLOD (Terrain Level of Detail) from your normal choices that you would want for daytime flights. AutoFPS will also automatically manage your CLOUDS level of detail setting from what you set it for in the simulator.  Once you "learn" all the possible combinations of settings with the AutoFPS app (it's simple...just start the app and type in your chosen values in the GUI window that opens on you screen) for different flight environments you could just create you own "cheat sheet" to remember what settings work best for you and your computer hardware for different flying conditions, then enter those values before you start the flight in MSFS.

For night flights, you "normally" would want to reduce the LOD of OBJECTS (OLOD) on the ground, unless you are buzzing someplace like New York City at 1000 feet.  This can increase your FPS significantly if you are using "older" hardware.  AutoFPS will do that automatically for you as you climb after takeoff, and will also reapply your higher OLOD setting as you descend for landing (so your ground objects will start being rendered again). 

And it does a whole bunch of other things to automatically improve your sim performance at a given FPS rate you tell it to maintain.  Stops stuttering, scenery texture tearing, etc. 

EDIT:  I forgot...there is also a one-click item choice to let the app do it's own thing by reading the settings you chose in the MSFS Graphics section.  Think of it as an "Easy" setting, and everything else I said above as the "Expert" setting that lets you decide what values you want to combine, change, and use for any particular flight you want to make.  

Link to the new thread for the (new full) version of the app posted yesterday:  MSFS 2020 Auto FPS App v0.4.2 - Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) - The AVSIM Community   (NOTE:  READ the Readme file using the link in the first post of the thread BEFORE you install it or try to use it, just to avoid confusion.

Thanks , i will try that one also.

There must be some bug in MSFS as it never was an issue before. I am using the LOD reset version.

Will update GPU driver as well

Michael Moe 

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by Michael Moe

27 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

I am using the LOD reset version

You won't need it anymore with the v0.4.2 AutoFPS.  The "Expert" mode option included with it will allow you to do basically the same things automatically, even on an "old low end PC" that would struggle to maintain 30 FPS in MSFS2020 (I tested it on one of my older PCs I still have from many years ago just for grins and giggles.  Can you say 1080Ti GPU?  🤪 With a motherboard that can't be upgraded to Windows 11?  🤣).  As long as you keep your expectations rational...ie - don't try Ultra Clouds at a payware JFK with 150 AI parked everywhere you'll be fine.  Just stay reasonable and you will be able to maintain 30 FPS with "High" clouds, fewer AI, etc.  Regardless of the computer capability, you still have to select settings that the computer can reasonably handle.  

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by FalconAF

7 minutes ago, FalconAF said:

You won't need it anymore with the v0.1.4 AutoFPS.  The "Expert" mode option included with it will allow you to do basically the same things automatically, even on an "old low end PC" that would struggle to maintain 30 FPS in MSFS2020 (I tested it on one of my older PCs I still have from many years ago just for grins and giggles.  Can you say 1080Ti GPU?  🤪 With a motherboard that can't be upgraded to Windows 11?  🤣).  As long as you keep your expectations rational...ie - don't try Ultra Clouds at a payware JFK with 150 AI parked everywhere you'll be fine.  Just stay reasonable and you will be able to maintain 30 FPS with "High" clouds, fewer AI, etc.  Regardless of the computer capability, you still have to select settings that the computer can reasonably handle.  

Thanks

 

0.1.4 ? or 0.4.2 ?

 

Michael Moe

9 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

Thanks

 

0.1.4 ? or 0.4.2 ?

 

Michael Moe

0.4.2.  Geez!  Brain Dump.  I need a vacation!!!  🤪

(I went back and changed my other posts to say v0.4.2.  Thanks!)

 

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by FalconAF

Michael, I've been having strange altitude performance recently too. Performance at EGLL for example is good and then up at FL330 it is bad, which makes no sense to me.

I'll be trying the AutoFPS app later myself and I'll report any differences if I notice any. I know other users have reported issues at altitude over northern Europe too.

31 minutes ago, El Diablito said:

Michael, I've been having strange altitude performance recently too. Performance at EGLL for example is good and then up at FL330 it is bad, which makes no sense to me.

I'll be trying the AutoFPS app later myself and I'll report any differences if I notice any. I know other users have reported issues at altitude over northern Europe too.

Yeah it is strange . I will try FSiPanel now with starting point at FL200 around EGLL to see

 

Thanks

Michael Moe

Pretty much the same with lots of fps drop and stutters . Tried different servers etc. I also uninstalled the region updates without success.

I also tried the GPU/CPU rendering in the Fenix with no diff to this issue.

The AutoFPS does not make it better as i use VSYNC. I will keep the lod reset version instead.

For now its FSIPanel and VFR in the Comanche. Will wait for the new update frome MSFS.

Michael Moe

33 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

The AutoFPS does not make it better as i use VSYNC. I will keep the lod reset version instead.

That's probably your problem with it.  You don't need to use VSYNC with it.  In fact, all the beta testers discovered that can actually interfere with the app.  Try it disabling VSYNC in the MSFS Graphics section and see what happens.  Just set your FPS in the APP'S FPS window for what frame rate you can normally get, then let the APP maintain that FPS by adjusting you TLOD, OLOD, and Cloud setting. 

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, the "old lod reset version" was made by the same developer of this new AutoFPS, and the developer himself actually says the old lod reset version should not be used anymore.  If you can't get the new AutoFPS to do what the old lod reset app does (and a whole lot better) you are still doing something wrong with it.

Initially the app can be confusing for a new user.  You really, REALLY need to read the Readme file and if needed ask questions in the forum post I referenced.  Once you get YOUR settings for YOUR computer dialed in, you won't be disappointed unless your expectations and associated setting choices are way too extreme for your hardware. 

Note:  I edited my original (first) reply to you to better clarify a couple things.  But STILL examine the Readme in its entirety.

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by FalconAF

6 minutes ago, FalconAF said:

That's probably your problem with it.  You don't need to use VSYNC with it.  In fact, all the beta testers discovered that can actually interfere with the app.  Try it disabling VSYNC in the MSFS Graphics section and see what happens.  Just set your FPS in the APP'S FPS window for what frame rate you can normally get, then let the APP maintain that FPS by adjusting you TLOD, OLOD, and Cloud setting. 

Initially the app can be confusing for a new user of it.  You really, REALLY need to read the Readme file and if needed ask questions in the forum post I referenced.  Once you get YOUR settings for YOUR computer dialed in, you won't be disappointed unless your expectations and associated setting choices are way too extreme for your hardware. 

Note:  I edited my original (first) reply to you to better clarify a couple things.  But STILL examine the Readme in its entirety.

Thanks i will try disabling Vsync and see.

Hopefully beta testers of the new MSFS version still have performance improvements.

Michael Moe 

7 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

Thanks i will try disabling Vsync and see.

Hopefully beta testers of the new MSFS version still have performance improvements.

Michael Moe 

If you're referring to the new MSFS2024 version, Asobo personnel already indicated there would "probably" be something similar in MSFS2024 to what the current AutoFPS does.  One of them actually said something like, "It's already included in the XBOX version of 2020.  I don't know why we didn't think of doing it in the PC version." Duh! 😏

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by FalconAF

5 minutes ago, FalconAF said:

If you're referring to the new MSFS2024 version, Asobo personnel already indicated there would "probably" be something similar in MSFS2024 to what the current AutoFPS does.  One of them actually said something like, "It's already included in the XBOX version of 2020.  I don't know why we didn't think of doing it in the PC version." Duh! 😏

Nope refering to latest beta

Michael Moe