11 hours ago, Bozdog said:

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Let me clarify....I still prefer hardwired VR over the latest Wireless Quest Air Link tech when it comes to flight/race simming.

From my personal experience with all the Quest HMDs the hardwired Rift S just gives a better overall image than what the Quest Link cable can do. While the Quest 3 visuals and fit are much better and an improvement than the Quest 2. I feel the Quest 2 was not the best first impression of VR visuals for you, while most of the hardwired HMDs just give better colors and visuals overall I'd say going Varjo, Somnium VR1 or latest Pimax HMD in the future are surely the way to go for the closest thing you'll get to native 1440p monitor like visuals in a VR HMD. The Quest 3 was my latest HMD purchase and I just don't care for the link cable nor air link visuals even after tweaking Oculus Debug Tool settings. Quickly found myself going back to my hardwired Rift S. Its just a much more rich full overall image as far as sharpness and color.

I've been using VR since 2014 and have accumulated the following headsets since.

Oculus DK2

Oculus CV1

HTC Vive

Rift S

Samsung Odyssey Plus

Quest 1

Quest 2

Quest 3

HP Reverb G1

HP Reverb G2

Valve Index

In 2024 I still prefer my Rift S over my Quest 3, Reverb G2,  and Valve Index for MSFS and a couple of other VR titles.

It's all up to personal preference on which HMD ticks all your boxes and honestly simply works and gives the most enjoyment

The Rift S just checks all my boxes as far as tracking, comfort, visuals.( G2 Reverb and Index have better black colors but have other things I don't like about them)

As for why I always end up enjoying the Rift S more, the lower native 1280×1440 resolution just leaves a ton of performance room for some pretty high supersampling which heavily makes up for the lower native resolution.

I personally just prefer the way Oculus/ Meta Tool super samples the Rift S's VR image in particular over most. Running 1.4SS  in MSFS with in sim 90 TAA gives me a crisp beautiful image in MSFS with enough headroom to run ultra clouds.

I'm currently waiting on the Somnium VR1 as my next big VR purchase along with a new PC with the latest Nvidia/Intel combo.

So yea I own most major HMDs besides the latest Pimax or Varjo HMDs. Hopefully the Somnium VR1 is the next best HMD for me.

Also my ancient 1080ti/8700k setup handles all of my HMDs very well in 2024 for the titles I enjoy.

As an older card the 1080ti is still a very powerful factory freak GPU and with 11GB of video ram, it's still a workhorse that can drive most HMDs well and chew through most of the latest pc titles in 2D at the end of the day 😛

So yes my recommendation from your current Quest 2 would be to skip the Quest 3 and go directly to the latest Pimax, Varjo or Somnium VR HMDs, since the future with our current high end hard wired Reverb G2 looks shaky with Windows future updates.

All just my personal tastes and opinions from 10 years of being an absolute VR HMD hoarder and addict of course.🍻

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 30, 20242 yr by blueshark747

Great info thank you very much 

 

15 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Let me clarify....I still prefer hardwired VR over the latest Wireless Quest Air Link tech when it comes to flight/race simming.

From my personal experience with all the Quest HMDs the hardwired Rift S just gives a better overall image than what the Quest Link cable can do. While the Quest 3 visuals and fit are much better and an improvement than the Quest 2. I feel the Quest 2 was not the best first impression of VR visuals for you, while most of the hardwired HMDs just give better colors and visuals overall I'd say going Varjo, Somnium VR1 or latest Pimax HMD in the future are surely the way to go for the closest thing you'll get to native 1440p monitor like visuals in a VR HMD. The Quest 3 was my latest HMD purchase and I just don't care for the link cable nor air link visuals even after tweaking Oculus Debug Tool settings. Quickly found myself going back to my hardwired Rift S. Its just a much more rich full overall image as far as sharpness and color.

I've been using VR since 2014 and have accumulated the following headsets since.

Oculus DK2

Oculus CV1

HTC Vive

Rift S

Samsung Odyssey Plus

Quest 1

Quest 2

Quest 3

HP Reverb G1

HP Reverb G2

Valve Index

In 2024 I still prefer my Rift S over my Quest 3, Reverb G2,  and Valve Index for MSFS and a couple of other VR titles.

It's all up to personal preference on which HMD ticks all your boxes and honestly simply works and gives the most enjoyment

The Rift S just checks all my boxes as far as tracking, comfort, visuals.( G2 Reverb and Index have better black colors but have other things I don't like about them)

As for why I always end up enjoying the Rift S more, the lower native 1280×1440 resolution just leaves a ton of performance room for some pretty high supersampling which heavily makes up for the lower native resolution.

I personally just prefer the way Oculus/ Meta Tool super samples the Rift S's VR image in particular over most. Running 1.4SS  in MSFS with in sim 90 TAA gives me a crisp beautiful image in MSFS with enough headroom to run ultra clouds.

I'm currently waiting on the Somnium VR1 as my next big VR purchase along with a new PC with the latest Nvidia/Intel combo.

So yea I own most major HMDs besides the latest Pimax or Varjo HMDs. Hopefully the Somnium VR1 is the next best HMD for me.

Also my ancient 1080ti/8700k setup handles all of my HMDs very well in 2024 for the titles I enjoy.

As an older card the 1080ti is still a very powerful factory freak GPU and with 11GB of video ram, it's still a workhorse that can drive most HMDs well and chew through most of the latest pc titles in 2D at the end of the day 😛

So yes my recommendation from your current Quest 2 would be to skip the Quest 3 and go directly to the latest Pimax, Varjo or Somnium VR HMDs, since the future with our current high end hard wired Reverb G2 looks shaky with Windows future updates.

All just my personal tastes and opinions from 10 years of being an absolute VR HMD hoarder and addict of course.🍻

 

  

Great info thank you very much 

 

 

 

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Edited May 31, 20242 yr by strider1

On 5/30/2024 at 2:08 AM, blueshark747 said:

Also my ancient 1080ti/8700k setup handles all of my HMDs very well in 2024 for the titles I enjoy.

I can believe it. I was running a Reverb G2 with my old 1080i just fine. I had to turn a lot of the graphics sliders down, and I quickly learned to stay out of places like O'Hare, JFK and LAX, but it worked pretty well considering how creaky-old that card is now.

Wouldn't it be nice if Nvidia would release a similarly groundbreaking card today instead of the overpriced iterative game they're currently playing...

 

2 hours ago, eslader said:

I can believe it. I was running a Reverb G2 with my old 1080i just fine. I had to turn a lot of the graphics sliders down, and I quickly learned to stay out of places like O'Hare, JFK and LAX, but it worked pretty well considering how creaky-old that card is now.

Wouldn't it be nice if Nvidia would release a similarly groundbreaking card today instead of the overpriced iterative game they're currently playing...

 

Yup the 1080ti is a factory freak of an old GPU, and still manages to somehow survive the latest Nvidia drivers without suffering any real performance loss or "coincidental bricking".🤣

Which headset are you running lately?

Still enjoying your G2?

 

3 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Which headset are you running lately?

Still enjoying your G2?

For now, until Microsoft kicks WMR off of Windows 10 like they did with 11.

 

Eyeing the Crystal for its replacement, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Crystal Light looks like might be a good option.  Be very interested in hearing thoughts from someone using this with a 3080rtx GPU  as i cant justify a new Headset AND graphics card just for MSFS .  Would a 3080 run it ok any experts know?

 

Cheers

 

 

 

On 6/1/2024 at 4:58 PM, Bozdog said:

Crystal Light looks like might be a good option.  Be very interested in hearing thoughts from someone using this with a 3080rtx GPU  as i cant justify a new Headset AND graphics card just for MSFS .  Would a 3080 run it ok any experts know?

 

Cheers

 

 

 

On the lowest graphic settings and away from cities it would probably be barely ok. I think the Cyrstal is going to need a 4080 at minimum. 

Well, I was really considering the Crystal but there were some points about it that were just holding me back, (price, heavy, and I didn't care about the battery or untethered vr).  Once I saw the Crystal Light and saw most of my concerns cleared up, I couldn't resist and pulled the trigger. I am upgrading from a HP G2 so it will be interesting.

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