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Why does runway change after selection

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Current situation at CYYC wind is 330 at 13 kts. I'm choosing rw 35L from the map to start my flight, but MSFS puts me on rw 17R without further notice. WHY?

Edited by Nemo

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That is one of the new options that ATC chooses the best rwy and thus overrides your manual selection. There is a setting in your options to prioritize manual changes over ATC 

away from my PC right now but it may be a setting in your assistance options iirc

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1 hour ago, Nemo said:

Current situation at CYYC wind is 330 at 13 kts. I'm choosing rw 35L from the map to start my flight, but MSFS puts me on rw 17R without further notice. WHY?

From the SU14 release notes:

  • Added flight plan assistance setting for ATC in the user experience assistance settings so that users can request the ATC to favor their flight plan or world map flight settings over the current conditions. This assistance is set to “Active” by default. Active: ATC will set the active runway and approach for the departure and arrival airport based on the users flight plan or settings in the world map. Deactivated: ATC will set the active runway and approach based on current conditions only.

 

41 minutes ago, mmcmah said:

From the SU14 release notes:

 

  • Added flight plan assistance setting for ATC in the user experience assistance settings so that users can request the ATC to favor their flight plan or world map flight settings over the current conditions. This assistance is set to “Active” by default. Active: ATC will set the active runway and approach for the departure and arrival airport based on the users flight plan or settings in the world map. Deactivated: ATC will set the active runway and approach based on current conditions only.

 

right. It’s in options—> assistance options —> AtC enforce flightplan ON

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And as far as i know if this is set to ON and you do not use this runway ( for example the apporach runway ) your logbook shows no landings at this situation.

I mean i see it like this at a last flight..

cheers 😉

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I understand. If I want to choose my runway manually: ATC enforce flight plan OFF, right? I had this setting OFF but MSFS put me on the opposite end anyway. It is especially weird, when the wind situation is 330 at 13 knots and MSFS/ATC thinks that runway 17 is the best ....

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4 hours ago, Nemo said:

I understand. If I want to choose my runway manually: ATC enforce flight plan OFF, right? I had this setting OFF but MSFS put me on the opposite end anyway. It is especially weird, when the wind situation is 330 at 13 knots and MSFS/ATC thinks that runway 17 is the best ....

I always understood it should be ON if you want ATC to follow your flighplan (in the world screen), and OFF if you want ATC to do whatever it fancies.
Wheter  ATC takes notice of any flightplans you've created in the FMS/GPS after you have spawned in the sim I don't know.

 

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11 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said:

I always understood it should be ON if you want ATC to follow your flighplan (in the world screen), and OFF if you want ATC to do whatever it fancies.
Wheter  ATC takes notice of any flightplans you've created in the FMS/GPS after you have spawned in the sim I don't know.

 

When I fly with PMDG, I usually don't have an active MSFS flight plan. Only PMDG .rte file

- Harry 

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21 hours ago, Nemo said:

Current situation at CYYC wind is 330 at 13 kts. I'm choosing rw 35L from the map to start my flight, but MSFS puts me on rw 17R without further notice. WHY?

Hello Harry,

I use the WM for starting my plan every time up and MSFS never changes the runway that I will be taking off from.  Here's how I do this in this exact sequence:

  1. After entering the departure airport I first select my desired gate/ramp.  My goal is usually to try to select an appropriate one not too far from my planned departure runway.   
  2. I select my arrival airport.
  3. I change from Direct to IFR.
  4. I then input data into Simbrief, which actually ports there from A Pilot's Life, but you might do that manually.
  5. I look at METAR in Simbrief, which is usually close to what MSFS' will be when we can view it.  Based on this and where my departure gate is I will decide which runway I want to depart from, and input that along w/ anticipated arrival airport runway into Simbrief, and then Generate the OFP.
  6. Finally, I will use the SID/STAR that Simbrief chooses, and put those into the WM planner--when you do this is when MSFS chooses the runway you wish to depart on, because it's tied to the SID you've used.

Might seem complicated but it works well for avoiding MSFS deciding on its own which runway you will be departing on.  This approach also allows one to use default ATC if desired as the route will be very close though sometimes not identical since Simbrief is only being used for SID/STAR and creates its own route, but close enough.

And to simplify this...simply chose the correct SID/runway in the planner and that is the runway MSFS ATC will direct you to!

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