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Anybody have this bird? Why on earth so expensive? The screenshots look impressive mind. I understand the company now has a better reputation - is that true?

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In my opinion, their long history of poor service and general disdain for customer's trumps any short term appearance of quality. There are numerous recent threads on the product. Have they implemented a support forum?I'll never buy anything from them. The cost of the their products has always been bizarre and not a good value IMO. I don't trust them.Bob...

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Whether or not you like their products the biggest reason for the price of their products is quite simply the exchange rate which at this moment in time is: 1.00 EUR = 1.43754 USD. Craig

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From what I've seen and experienced, their prices have always been on the high side. I think they might have been one of the first companies to do the block system, charging for various aircraft systems in order to get a full package. The first plane that I bought from them years ago was a really nice model but I had to pay extra for more liveries, sound and different models that weren't that different. I bought a southwest 733, then I had to buy the gauge pack and sound pack. There might have even been a flight model pack, I can't remember. Are they still doing this system of purchase?

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I just purchased the the new FSX 737-900ER and I have to say, it took me a long time to decide to make the purchase because of the price. The deciding factors for me was that I was purchasing an ultra realalistic aircraft and I also didn't want to wait for the PMDG. I've flown once in it so far and it's performed flawlessly for me, (touch wood). Don't forget, when you reach a certain level of detail and quality, your going to pay for that. Its also certified by Boeing as a training aid, so your paying for that.If you want to go one step further in the sim world and have something as close to real as the real aircraft, then this should meet your needs, if not, then don't waste your money.I wrote them a quick email on a couple of questions I had and they responded quickly for me.They do have a support forum , but it's really only accessable to customers.Just some input.

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"Have they implemented a support forum?"Yes"They do have a support forum , but it's really only accessable to customers."Correct as well :-) It's similar to Level D forums where you must be a current owner of the product to have access to all the forums.

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Ron, I sent you a pm with a few questions about this product, I had their fs9 737ng and it was very incomplete, it would be great if this was different or more like an lds quality simulation, I really need a 737 ;).

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Well Ive had poor experiences with their support as well, but that thread doesnt talk about the new fsx -900, Im willing to drop the past if I can get some positive feedback that this product is complete, not like the complete waste the fs9 737's were.

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>Ron, I sent you a pm with a few questions about this product,>I had their fs9 737ng and it was very incomplete, it would be>great if this was different or more like an lds quality>simulation, I really need a 737 ;).Hi Mike,I'll read it tonight and see if I can find some time to relpy to it.I'm trying to meet some deadlines on things before Xmas sets in if you know what I mean:-) .

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Chris, please correct your signature image to conform to our rules. 400 x 60 and no larger than 10Kb in size. Thank you.

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Here are my observations of the entire series of aircraft I have installed:Other than ticking off a lot of armchair pilots because of no 2D panel, the plane seems to fly fine for me. I DO admit there are a few features I'd love to se in future releases of the 737, but it is far from a waste to me. It has a great working flight deck, and the cabin is utterly fabulous (I fly the BBJ series). In FSX I cannot attest to this, however, as with FSX technology it is currently impossible to "walk around" the aircraft (grrr). But the flight deck of the ER for FSX, which I just installed 4 days ago, seems spectacular. I haven't had a chance to go through all of the system s yet and the few flights I have taken have been short local hops, but the plane works great right up until FSX gives me the grand CTD issue many users are having -- yes -- I am one of the unfortunate souls that has an Nvidia card, so it's not Ariane related for the crashes. Good thing next semester i am going to ATI so I can enjoy this 737 and a few other products for more than 30 minutes at a time O.oI'll keep posting here if I come up with anything god or bad on the ER for FSX, but so far she flies smoothly and operates well in the areas I have tested so far.

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>Chris, please correct your signature image to conform to our>rules. 400 x 60 and no larger than 10Kb in size. Thank you.Done. Sorry missed the size part when I registered god knows how many years ago LOL.

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I don't have this bird, but looking at the Ariane site here is a link to the 739ER screenshots:http://ariane.webmetics.com/Content.do?sta...ent=screenshotsand here's a review done by Angelique:http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/review/aria7379.htmI read somewhere a month or so ago that someone had bought a supposedly FSX model from this company, only to find that it was promised as "coming" and the model wasn't FSX at all. That may have changed.Bruce.

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I have read on several forums that the vc refresh rate is very low, due to many entries in the panel.cfg. If you search on youtube there is a video of the 737 taking off and then turning in which you can clearly see the pfd jump and the mfd rotate jerkily. To me, this is a serious no no after so many add ons have achieved otherwise, particularly since Airsimmer and AirlinerXP seem to be pushing the boundaries of gauge smoothness and quality in general. Many reviews fail to discuss vc gauge refresh rate. Why that is I can't understand. It is such a basic consideration and element of realism. Personally, I won't buy from developers unless I can find videos of their vcs smoothly in action. I have also heard that although the Ariane 737 has IRS alignment, the fmc is not as complete as PMDG'S. I have also heard criticisms of the Ariane TCAS logic. Someone else will have to confirm or deny these reports, however.

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>particularly since Airsimmer>and AirlinerXP seem to be pushing the boundaries of gauge>smoothness and quality in general. >AirlinerXP... Is that still going on? ;-)

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Hello BruceAriane Boeing 737-900 For FS2004Look at the title of the review, it is reviewing a different product than the one being discussed here, the FSX version is a new product.

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>I have also heard that although the Ariane 737 has IRS>alignment, the fmc is not as complete as PMDG'S. I have also>heard criticisms of the Ariane TCAS logic. Someone else will>have to confirm or deny these reports, however. From what I can see, the more advaced model I purchased(FSX 737-900ER) has much more functionality and programing capabilites than the PMDG.

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I purchased the advanced edition about 2 hours ago. I have only had a quick test flight in it so far but it is working well so far. The framerate I am getting is about the same as the Level-D 767 which is about 5FPS better than the PMDG 747.The quages are smooth for me, compareable to most of my other payware machines. It actually does look like the screenshots although there are some labels and indicators that arn't as sharp as the rest of the cockpit. What needs to be sharp is sharp though. Still, it is beautiful at night with the backlighting on. The flight ops manual is very good.Certainly the standard editions FMC is pretty incomplete but it seems the advanced edition has as much working stuff as PMDGs. Hard to say defintively in such a short time.Is it worth AU$160 for the advanced edition? For most of us, probably not but it is christmas :-) Besides, my wife got a bonus today and someone had to spend it :-)Steven.

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Hello ,are the costumers now able to make a APLNAV /VNAV flight and a Autoland with the FSX Bird ??I had older Versions for FS2004 with no proper working AP specs.Didn

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"Don't forget, when you reach a certain level of detail and quality, your going to pay for that. Its also certified by Boeing as a training aid, so your paying for that."LOL, I had to laugh at this.....Ariane and these words in the same sentance!!!The last attempt at a 737NG these guys did was laughed off the face of the planet when put to the test regarding AFDS modes, FMC and avionics in general. This FSX version would have to be one amazing re-write!I doubt VERY much that this model officially has Boeings 'blessings' as a training aid either. Being a 'Boeing Officially Licensed' partner doesn't mean anything. FSX has 'Cessna Officially Licensed' slapped on the box but would you put much faith in the default C172 flight model being suitable as a 'training aid'? I don't.....Glenn

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Sorry, my bad, I hadn't noticed the FS9 reference. I had actually meant the link to be referencing a positive comment on the product, but it seems that the newer (FSX) version may be even more so, from some of the comments here in this thread.(I don't think I can recall a time when we (the sim community) have been so engaged in 2 versions of FS concurrently. Not to mention the 2 concurrent versions of OS as well. ) :)Bruce.

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Unfortunatley, the prices there are in Pounds Sterling (GBP) not Euros, which makes the US$ conversion even worse.Glenn

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>LOL, I had to laugh at this.....Ariane and these words in the>same sentance!!!>>The last attempt at a 737NG these guys did was laughed off the>face of the planet when put to the test regarding AFDS modes,>FMC and avionics in general. Then don't buy it. Obviously you were an unhappy customer. It sounds like you probably know more than I do when it comes to aviation, at least you sound somewhat like an expert. How can you make a comment like that without even flying the FSX version?? If Ford came out with one bad model, would you dish all of Fords models based on one bad one??I merely gave an insight to what I've experienced since I've purchased this aircraft. I haven't seen anything negative or I would have commented accordingly. So maybe they have changed there ways since your purchase.

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