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Coolfull price about $43 USprevious owner discount comes out at about 25nice Xmas present, I flew the Cheyenne in FS9 almost exclusivelyallen

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FYI -Aircraft is designed for SP2 only. (warning given on installation)I'm flying with SP1 only and don't want to wipe out some of my FS9aircraft..with a SP2 install. Will try with SP1 ..anyone else flying the Cheyenne with SP1 only?

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Hmmm,Discount for US buyers?Price (USD) in Dollars: $43.46Price (Euro) in Dollars: $51.78Why are Euro users having to pay more?

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I can't afford the currency conversion :( to USD! We are getting totally reamed in the world market!Barry

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Barry,I feel ya bro. Thing costs almost as much as FSX itself.And there are hints that the foreign developer community are seeing massively lower sales because their price points do not reflect what the (US) market is willing to pay.

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According to FSXmissionguy, the bloody add-on is about 20 percent more expensive in Europe than in the USA. Seems like Uncle Sam's little nephews really don't have much to complain about.Be well!Jaap Verduijn.

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EU residents have to pay VAT (20%), that's why.Do US residents not have to add tax-free imports to their tax declaration each year ? I heard that when ordering things from another state, where no sales tax is then paid, officially this needs to be put into their tax declaration. Wouldn't wonder if the same didn't apply to tax-free imports ?Siggy

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Great stuff! A developer has found another new way to make FSX even more of a mess than it already was: Up until now, people were only having problems with SP2 breaking stuff that ran under RTM and SP1, and now the first addon is there that won't run without SP2!I've been surfing round the forums here in Germany, and Hans Hartman (the lead dev. at Digital Aviation) has catagoricaly stated that the Cheyenne will only run under SP2, which, er...stinks :-mad I was planning to buy the DA Cheyenne (I have the FS9 version, I could've taken advantage of the discount, shame), but if I have to install SP2 again, it's a no-go.In return for getting the DA Cheyenne, a whole lot of other things will be broken again: The F1 Cessna 441, the FSD Pilatus Porter, the MAAM DC-3, and a whole lot of other stuff too. Not to mention a few legacy (until SP2 that is) sceneries like Orcas, Strom and Sultan, to name but a few.As well as texture corruption when using the menu, and problems starting any turbo-engined aircraft at all etc., etc.Is one aircraft worth all that? I think not...What'as really pi**ing me off though is: WHY? I have other aircraft that run perfectly with SP1 or SP2 (F1 Pilatus PC-12, ESDG's Twinkie etc) If F1 and ESDG can code their stuff to run properly so that people have a choice, why the #*&! can't DA get their act together?I have the feeling that DA have shot themselves in the foot with this one, by limiting the users to the lucky ones that have no problems with SP2, and are prepared to do without a lot of nice addons that still work in FSX RTM or SP1.They have almost certainly severly limited their customer base with this faux pas.I can only hope that FSD's Cheyenne 400LS will be updated soon, I like it better than the Cheyenne III anyway :+ So, rant mode off, have a nice Christmas everybody :-)RegardsGrahame

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I have a dual boot system, Vista for the FSX-SP2 and XP for the FSX-SP1, only have to chose on boot up where to go...otherwise everything will install twice, ASX, FEX, etc...no problems at all with registration keys on everything on each/both OS, FSX included.So I use Vista OS for things like the P51, this Cheyenne, and the XP OS for things that dont work well in SP2, sorta leading the double life, but heck....allen

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I bought it this afternoon and took advantage of the prevous owner discount. (around $25US). I have one issue I cannot solve and hope the one other person who bought it today might be on the boards this evening. :) I cannot get the VOR-ILS/GPS rocker switch to rock. It is stuck in the VOR-ILS which prevents the plane from following the GPS flight plan. The DA website is down tonight (which really is the smart thing to do on Xmas eve). Thanks in advance. Bob..

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>I bought it this afternoon and took advantage of the prevous>owner discount. (around $25US). >>I have one issue I cannot solve and hope the one other person>who bought it today might be on the boards this evening. :) I>cannot get the VOR-ILS/GPS rocker switch to rock. It is stuck>in the VOR-ILS which prevents the plane from following the GPS>flight plan. The DA website is down tonight (which really is>the smart thing to do on Xmas eve). Thanks in advance. >>Bob..There is a new instrument in the radio stack that tells the autopilot what to follow.... I'm still reading the manual, Mine did work later in flight but I cannot remember why... still trying to get in under control in that respect.I changed teh nav freq to the next VOR wpt, and then I was able to activate that switch to GPS but why and whatfore I dunno as my smart 4G computer decided I'd run out of memory soon thereafter at 2.3G of usage (??) This is for the Cheyenne 1A model...Yuppers, I'm back on board. I activated the flight plan in the littleTrimble 2000 as per manual, then set the nav1 to the first VOR and voila the GPS switch was switchable...why? dunno yet.allen

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>I have one issue I cannot solve and hope the one other person>who bought it today might be on the boards this evening. :) I>cannot get the VOR-ILS/GPS rocker switch to rock. It is stuck>in the VOR-ILS which prevents the plane from following the GPS>flight plan.There's no CDI button on the GPS? That does the same thing...

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HIThe Cheyenne was promoted and sold by Aerosoft as am FSX product initially. The FSX version was supposed to follow close on the heels of the 2004 version. The reasons for the delay are obvious..... BUT, the FSX version was already paid for at the outset and therefore should have been delivered FREE to original purchasers of this product.It was listed by Aerosoft as an FSX compatible product for a long time. Eventually, after many months, it strangely disappeared from their list of FSX products. Questioned about this, Digital Aviation merely stated that the FSX version was still being developed.Now we find that the FSX version WITH the discount costs more than a lot of other good aircraft that are provided for both FS9 and FSX from the outset, especially here in the UK.I don't mind paying a little toward the FSX version of this aircraft, but the price for previous owners of this product purchased when it was advertised and sold as FSX compatible is, in my opinion, extortionate.Having got that off my chest, I would still recommend this aircraft as one of the best on the market both in FS9 and now in FSX. The graphics, both interior and exterior are superb, and the complexity will hold the interest of even the most demanding of Simmers for a long time to come.I have only flown it for an hour or two, but I am happy to finally have this FSX version of one of my favorates.My only reservation is the cost distortion here in the UK, and the miserable deal for those who originally purchased an FSX compatible product from Aerosoft.Have a great ChristmasBruce Upperton

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FYI -Aircraft is designed for SP2 only. (warning given on installation)Darn, if this is true, it's a deal breaker for me. I am having enough issues without SP2...Chris Porter:-outtaPerthWestern Australia

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Just tried to reach DA's forums, down again....Btw, info for all the people carping about the price in the good old US of A:The euro price is

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>>There is a new instrument in the radio stack that tells the>autopilot what to follow.... I'm still reading the manual, >>Mine did work later in flight but I cannot remember why...>still trying to get in under control in that respect.>>I changed teh nav freq to the next VOR wpt, and then I was>able to activate that switch to GPS but why and whatfore I>dunno as my smart 4G computer decided I'd run out of memory>soon thereafter at 2.3G of usage (??) This is for the Cheyenne>1A model...>>Yuppers, I'm back on board. I activated the flight plan in the>little>Trimble 2000 as per manual, then set the nav1 to the first VOR>and voila the GPS switch was switchable...why? dunno yet.>allenThanks Allen!I'm trying to complete a short flight and finish wrapping presents! LOL. I'll try your method, which in fact, might be the way the actual Trimble works!Bob..

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>>I have one issue I cannot solve and hope the one other>person>>who bought it today might be on the boards this evening. :)>I>>cannot get the VOR-ILS/GPS rocker switch to rock. It is>stuck>>in the VOR-ILS which prevents the plane from following the>GPS>>flight plan.>>There's no CDI button on the GPS? That does the same thing... Hi Bill,No the Trimble 2000 GPS does not have CDI button. Thanks for the suggestion.Bob..

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:Raises Hand, jumps up and down, I know, I know!!:The VOR-ILS/GPS rocker switch will automatically go to the VOR-ILS position when an active ILS frequency is received on NAV1. Apparently both of us have NAV1 set to a local ILS frequency. Just change the frequency of NAV1 to another Freq and the switch will work as per the manual. Doh!Bob..

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One of my favorites finally has made FSX :DAnd with the proven quality of Hans and this bird, I have no problem with the $25.22USD cost for the upgrade !! A fair price for such a quality A/C.Merry Xmas !Garett

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I just finished a night flight with a tricky cross wind landing (delivering gifts :)), and the plane flies better than it did in FS9. The big improvement for me is the VC gauge refresh rate. It is as smooth as the 2d panel. The night instrument panel remains one of the best ever for an FS airplane. Bob...

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