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Major Setback for FS2024 modders

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On 12/13/2024 at 11:39 AM, robert young said:

Thanks for that Matt, but I never had a single problem with re-sync in thousands of edits. The (new) process you describe sounds rather convoluted compared with a simple "re-sync" and as far as I can see there were no instructions (in the FS2024 sdk) about reloading an edit before your kind post here, but if it can be learned quickly then no worries and I will of course edit my thread title assumption.

Most of the beginning of the SDK documentation is dedicated to showing how to set up a proper dev mode project and package build; that's the correct way to do it both in 2020 and 2024. When you build the project the files in the build are refreshed in the VFS.

The VFS is always used. There is no "using the VFS" or "not using the VFS". When the sim loads all files are mounted into the sim VFS where they are tracked; this structure is what enables mods to exist in the first place.

Although you may personally not have encountered any issues using the Quick Reload button, it did cause some problems. Doing a normal devmode project and build avoids all of the possible issues and should be the SOP for all mods in either version of the sim.

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    It is not necessary to exit the sim. Simply create a project in devmode with your edited files in them, and then when you hit build, the files will be remounted and refreshed in the VFS. For a project

  • True, but it's so much easier to make all kinds of alarming claims about "evil" Asobo/Microsoft than it is to research the facts. 

On 12/14/2024 at 6:51 AM, Cognita said:

The difference being 2020 really was ground breaking and the benefits over previous generation simulators where immense. 2024 is not groundbreaking at all. Yes, visually it has improved, in some places Bing maps have been updated and the flight and ground models have also been made better -- but these things could have been provided in a sim update, even a paid sim-update if they wanted to monetize. What is new is the career mode and I agree with you that likely their aim was to try to "hook" more people who casually use the game, to keep them interested and maybe some of them will stay with the title (attention = money) and perhaps make some marketplace purchases.  Personally I have no interest in career mode, and I wonder how many of those hardcore simmers -- the 10 or 20 or 30 percent -- bought 2024 to play careers. I am not sure it is that many.

The launch was indeed dreadful and has been followed by a substantial number of reports of connectivity and stability issues, many documented in their forums. It is further challenged by the sheer number of small bugs -- from flashing textures, ocean ships in the Seine, incoherent ground effect at heliports, blinding night lights, aircraft with no electrical systems, integer-division errors and coherent draw bugs preventing third-party developers from joining 2024, (no Black Square, no TDI, no PMDG) and so many more.  Then there is the absence of the marketplace, they will lose all the holiday sales. And for me the inability to access my 2020 content to try it myself -- even though I was repeatedly assured that those things I purchased on the Marketplace would be compatible in 2024 -- means I have no intention of ever buying anything from the Marketplace again, even Marketplace-only items.

I like 2024, I have deleted 2020 because 2024 really is a step forward. But it has not gone well and that may very well impact the longevity of the title.

I think if we look at the launch of XP v12 we will see MANY parallels to both the early launch problems and your points of what's possible via a sim update vs an architectural upgrade.

I happily paid for v12 and have been flying it since it became available.

Same with v2024.

Both sims have advanced more than enough over 4-5 years to justify a re-purchase.

19 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Both sims have advanced more than enough over 4-5 years to justify a re-purchase.

I agree and am more than happy to pay the money for the new sim. I wish only that a great deal more planning and preparation would have gone into launching the new sim.

MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.

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