2 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Do you have any evidence for your claims, besides the tea leaves you are reading?

Dude, those aren't "tea" leaves... 😉

1 hour ago, Biggles2010 said:

It's as reasonable a supposition as the optimistic claims about the future regularly made by the usual group of MS supporters on Avsim, also without hard evidence.

 

He lost me when he said he can't see another installment happening, which is something, even for him.

Now, your take on it is more nuanced and reasonable.

The simple truth is that MSFS will continue to run as long as people continue to pay for it. MS are basing a lot of this on their GamePass experience & forecasts, etc.

And many of us are willing to bet that they've got bigger plans for the Digital Twin than a mere flight simulator...

2 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Do you have any evidence for your claims, besides the tea leaves you are reading?

Evidence and forecasts are generally mutually exclusive for obvious reasons.

Personal experience in software industry and 30 years gaming/25 years simming experience.

Come back to my post January 2027, we'll see then. I wish you good luck.

11 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

he can't see another installment happening, which is something, even for him.

By Asobe obviously, I'll stand by my comment in 30 months if you will stick by yours.

7 hours ago, robert young said:

This now means every single edit will take 10+ minutes to see while you quit then restart the entire sim and reload the aircraft,

It is not necessary to exit the sim. Simply create a project in devmode with your edited files in them, and then when you hit build, the files will be remounted and refreshed in the VFS. For a project with just one copy step (for your CFG files, for example) this process will only be a second or two longer than the quick reload anyhow.

7 hours ago, robert young said:

I cannot understand why Asobo have removed this function.

It was sorta a hacky backdoor function to the above proper VFS remounting process and could cause problems in some scenarios (needing to infer information due to not having a build or project definition, etc), is my understanding. But this question in general is much better suited to the MSFS DevSupport forums and not here on Avsim.

1 minute ago, MattNischan said:

It is not necessary to exit the sim. Simply create a project in devmode with your edited files in them, and then when you hit build, the files will be remounted and refreshed in the VFS. For a project with just one copy step (for your CFG files, for example) this process will only be a second or two longer than the quick reload anyhow.

It was sorta a hacky backdoor function to the above proper VFS remounting process and could cause problems in some scenarios (needing to infer information due to not having a build or project definition, etc), is my understanding. But this question in general is much better suited to the MSFS DevSupport forums and not here on Avsim.

Matt, 

Haven't you learned by now that you can't just barge into conspiracy theory hysterics spreading reason and truth??? 🤣

I mean, what are we going to complain about NOW...?

11 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

By Asobe obviously, I'll stand by my comment in 30 months if you will stick by yours.

I will absolutely stick by my comment that MSFS will continue on as long as consumers are paying for it.

And saying "there won't be another instalment [sic]" is just as prescient as Bill Gates complaining about RAM 🤣

8 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Matt, 

Haven't you learned by now that you can't just barge into conspiracy theory hysterics spreading reason and truth??? 🤣

I mean, what are we going to complain about NOW...?

True, but it's so much easier to make all kinds of alarming claims about "evil" Asobo/Microsoft than it is to research the facts. 

15 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

It is not necessary to exit the sim. Simply create a project in devmode with your edited files in them, and then when you hit build, the files will be remounted and refreshed in the VFS. For a project with just one copy step (for your CFG files, for example) this process will only be a second or two longer than the quick reload anyhow.

It was sorta a hacky backdoor function to the above proper VFS remounting process and could cause problems in some scenarios (needing to infer information due to not having a build or project definition, etc), is my understanding. But this question in general is much better suited to the MSFS DevSupport forums and not here on Avsim.

Thanks as always for your insight @MattNischan 

1 hour ago, MattNischan said:

It is not necessary to exit the sim. Simply create a project in devmode with your edited files in them, and then when you hit build, the files will be remounted and refreshed in the VFS. For a project with just one copy step (for your CFG files, for example) this process will only be a second or two longer than the quick reload anyhow.

It was sorta a hacky backdoor function to the above proper VFS remounting process and could cause problems in some scenarios (needing to infer information due to not having a build or project definition, etc), is my understanding. But this question in general is much better suited to the MSFS DevSupport forums and not here on Avsim.

Thanks for that Matt, but I never had a single problem with re-sync in thousands of edits. The (new) process you describe sounds rather convoluted compared with a simple "re-sync" and as far as I can see there were no instructions (in the FS2024 sdk) about reloading an edit before your kind post here, but if it can be learned quickly then no worries and I will of course edit my thread title assumption. I don't quite understand "project with your edited files in them" - but I will have go and see if I can make it work.

Edited December 13, 20241 yr by robert young

33 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

True, but it's so much easier to make all kinds of alarming claims about "evil" Asobo/Microsoft than it is to research the facts. 

I said absolutely no such thing and the facts have been researched but the process is not explained in the SDK as Matt just has explained it.

44 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Matt, 

Haven't you learned by now that you can't just barge into conspiracy theory hysterics spreading reason and truth??? 🤣

I mean, what are we going to complain about NOW...?

Where was I either hysterical or suggestive of a conspiracy? I'm not the only one who feels the re-sync option (which was instant and easy) will be missed. Unfortunately the SDK does not explain what Matt just explained.

43 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

I will absolutely stick by my comment that MSFS will continue on as long as consumers are paying for it.

You like to commit yourself don't you? Obviously AGAIN that was taken as said with my quote. I will COMMIT to saying something more exact in that I do NOT believe enough people WILL keep paying for MS to trust Asobe to produce another episode in this series.

5 minutes ago, robert young said:

Where was I either hysterical or suggestive of a conspiracy? I'm not the only one who feels the re-sync option (which was instant and easy) will be missed. Unfortunately the SDK does not explain what Matt just explained.

Robert, my comment was not at all directed at you or your post, but rather at some of the follow on "conclusions" by other respondents. 🤙

2 hours ago, Biggles2010 said:

It's as reasonable a supposition

As was the tea leaf comment.  

As a glass half full person, I would hope the removal of something used by modders to edit aircraft is a temporary measure.