34 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Did a flight into LOWI this morning and while on the ground, the cloud-on-ground shadows were very good. Maybe it’s an issue while at altitude. 

It all depends on how close you are to the ground and how thick the clouds are. Also I found out that persets show better clouds shadows that Live Weather. But that might be because presets have thick clouds.

Yesterday, Live weather and flying at low altitude :

 

2 hours ago, GSalden said:

It all depends on how close you are to the ground and how thick the clouds are. Also I found out that persets show better clouds shadows that Live Weather. But that might be because presets have thick clouds.

Yesterday, Live weather and flying at low altitude :

 

Don't take this personally, but everything about your image makes the overall picture look completely unbalanced. Starting with the sky color, the completely washed-out clouds, and the artificial lighting.But accentuated by the poor quality of your photo. To take a good screenshot use Gadwin Printscreen.

 

White cloud layer without glare X-PLANE 12

 

 

Natural lighting FS2020 that FS2024 is unable to give you

 

FS2020 Autumn atmosphere

@filou

Not taking it personaly at all. The pic is taken inside the cockpit where there is lighting and the Iphone also sees the window bars.

When I look outside the window I see it more like on your screenshots.

The idea was to show that there can be good clouds shadows on the ground in certain circomstances.

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Edited May 11, 20251 yr by GSalden

On 5/10/2025 at 7:09 AM, filou said:

Since FS24's release, I haven't seen a single plausible cloud layer

Stop flying around in clear conditions, that should help.

1 hour ago, filou said:

Natural lighting FS2020 that FS2024 is unable to give you

2020 stock cannot produce that scene.  Be honest how you achieved it.

I do agree they should be sharper in some cases, but you need the right clouds and the right lighting in order to get that.

Some examples of pronounced shadows from a recent flight:

 

 

2 hours ago, filou said:

To take a good screenshot use Gadwin Printscreen.

Not sure why you're recommending a 3rd party screenshot utility when you can configure MSFS to save in jpg or (lossless) png format - and just use the inbuilt screenshot function.

9 minutes ago, Adamski_NZ said:

Not sure why you're recommending a 3rd party screenshot utility when you can configure MSFS to save in jpg or (lossless) png format - and just use the inbuilt screenshot function.

It's especially when I see the quality of the photos shared

5 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Stop flying around in clear conditions, that should help.

A bit like that?

 

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by charliearon
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1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

2020 stock cannot produce that scene.  Be honest how you achieved it.

I'm talking to you about lighting, you're talking to me about the scene. You don't take enough time to read, you don't know where you are anymore You lack a lot of honesty especially.

I can tell you without hesitation that I am very unhappy with the quality of clouds and lighting in FS2024. I fly at most 50 hours a week and I haven't seen anything very natural so far, except for a few plausible scenarios, but everything else is an indescribable imbalance. Even the grainy Bing map and its colors are unrealistic.

3 hours ago, filou said:

I'm talking to you about lighting,

Yes, and that is what I'm replying about.

3 hours ago, filou said:

You don't take enough time to read

You posted a scene with lighting I do not believe is stock.

 

3 hours ago, filou said:

you don't know where you are anymore You lack a lot of honesty especially.

Good grief, why don't you respond to my query that the shot is not stock.

 

3 hours ago, filou said:

I can tell you without hesitation that I am very unhappy with the quality of clouds and lighting in FS2024.

Yes, you already said, and that is why I came back with an obvious joke about flying around in clear conditions.

 

3 hours ago, filou said:

I haven't seen anything very natural so far, except for a few plausible scenarios

So there ARE plausible clouds then?

 

3 hours ago, filou said:

Even the grainy Bing map and its colors are unrealistic.

As opposed to the over green tints in 2020 you mean?  2020 itself has fantastic areas to fly, but also some awful ones.  There are plenty of amazing places to fly, plus plenty of occasions where the sky and lighting are pretty realistic - I'm talking stock and not the adjustments you have made.

4 hours ago, Adamski_NZ said:

Not sure why you're recommending a 3rd party screenshot utility when you can configure MSFS to save in jpg or (lossless) png format - and just use the inbuilt screenshot function.

Does MSFS2024 save converted HDR?

4 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Does MSFS2024 save converted HDR?

Good question - but I'm afraid I can't answer that, as I don't have an HDR-compatible monitor so that option in MSFS is greyed out. Does HDR mode make cloud lighting better or worse, I wonder?

9 hours ago, filou said:

It's especially when I see the quality of the photos shared

That's probably due to the editing software in use - rather than the method of taking the original shot. The shots I posted are totally unedited (except for cropping). My day job is a Web Developer, so I have access to a decent image editor (Photoshop) which does a fine job of saving in JPG from the [lossless] PNG original. However - I'm not sure how (or if) using HDR mode affects things (see previous post).

For what it's worth: though I sometimes take screenshots via the native MSFS method, I generally use the facility available from within Reshade, since I use it all the time to try and improve lighting for both sky and terrain.

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by Adamski_NZ

3 hours ago, Adamski_NZ said:

Good question - but I'm afraid I can't answer that, as I don't have an HDR-compatible monitor so that option in MSFS is greyed out. Does HDR mode make cloud lighting better or worse, I wonder?

Someone else asked that a while back as he said the clouds were burnt out, too bright.  In HDR I don't see that because the Windows HDR tool configures the lowest and highest brightness your monitor is capable of seeing.