I have the Virtualcol ATRs, the new v2, as well as the Embraer 170/175.

The visual models and VCs are pretty good, but they are light on systems.  Flight dynamics are mediocre and usually need some correcting.

I stopped buying from Carenado a couple years ago as they have become greedy and won't even have a Christmas sale any more.  I'm sure they're getting revenue from MSFS sales, but it is absurd that they won't discount their FSX and P3D planes as they could at least sell more and make some money on them. Instead they are just sitting on their servers doing nothing.  Whoever's in charge of marketing and sales over there certainly isn't the sharpest tool in the drawer.

Dave  

Several years ago when I used FSX I had purchased several of their Aircraft and asked them if they would cut me a discount if I purchased all of their remaining library, I think it was about 45 additional planes. 

Their reply was "sorry, no you have to pay full price."  Dumb as a rock.

On 8/19/2025 at 4:26 AM, Zylx said:

I still use FSX to fly my old favorite aircraft that won't work in P3Dv5 🙂 

I have noticed some of the aircraft that were developed natively for FSX and later ported to P3D as pay ware and freeware upgrades actually look and some function better in FSX. I'm thinking specifically of the PMDG DC6, A2A Connie and  Jan Visser C47 and JF C46. You don't have to deal with the dark cockpit panels inherent in P3DV5 and everything seems to look and function as meant such as the voice check list function in the M.J. C47. I spent most of Sunday afternoon trying to get the stewardess and check list read offs to work in P3DV5 without success after following all the advice I could find on line.  Pointless endeavor since everything works fine in FSX. Even some photo scenery looks sharper without the ever present haze inherent with P3DV5 with EA. I can still have the same effect to the degree I want adjusting the visibility in AS2016. 

   By no means am I suggesting abandoning my P3DV5 for FSX , just that there are still a lot of pleasures in FSX.  I keep FSX lean of addon airports since I use it mainly for the old piston liners and default airports with out jet bridges look mor like the forties and fifties.  

6 hours ago, Patco Lch said:

I have noticed some of the aircraft that were developed natively for FSX and later ported to P3D as pay ware and freeware upgrades actually look and some function better in FSX. I'm thinking specifically of the PMDG DC6, A2A Connie and  Jan Visser C47 and JF C46. You don't have to deal with the dark cockpit panels inherent in P3DV5 and everything seems to look and function as meant such as the voice check list function in the M.J. C47. I spent most of Sunday afternoon trying to get the stewardess and check list read offs to work in P3DV5 without success after following all the advice I could find on line.  Pointless endeavor since everything works fine in FSX. Even some photo scenery looks sharper without the ever present haze inherent with P3DV5 with EA. I can still have the same effect to the degree I want adjusting the visibility in AS2016. 

   By no means am I suggesting abandoning my P3DV5 for FSX , just that there are still a lot of pleasures in FSX.  I keep FSX lean of addon airports since I use it mainly for the old piston liners and default airports with out jet bridges look mor like the forties and fifties.  

The problem with P3Dv5 is it is to dark by default due to the way the shaders are adjusted.  Like panels that are too dark, and P3Dv5 looking to dark overall is the way the shaders are adjusted by default.  You can fix this problem with TOGA's Envshade and EnvPlus, they make P3Dv5 look amazing.

https://secure.simmarket.com/toga-projects-envshade-p3d.phtml

https://secure.simmarket.com/toga-projects-envplus-p3d.phtml

These products make P3Dv5 look amazing.  Ever since I use those products, I don't have issues with cockpits that look too dark and it makes the whole simulator look amazing.  Those add-ons are worth every penny imo.

Edited August 21, 2025Aug 21 by Zylx

On 8/19/2025 at 9:32 AM, dave2013 said:

I have the Virtualcol ATRs, the new v2, as well as the Embraer 170/175.

The visual models and VCs are pretty good, but they are light on systems.  Flight dynamics are mediocre and usually need some correcting.

I stopped buying from Carenado a couple years ago as they have become greedy and won't even have a Christmas sale any more.  I'm sure they're getting revenue from MSFS sales, but it is absurd that they won't discount their FSX and P3D planes as they could at least sell more and make some money on them. Instead they are just sitting on their servers doing nothing.  Whoever's in charge of marketing and sales over there certainly isn't the sharpest tool in the drawer.

Dave  

Very well said Dave 🙂