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Winwing and Rowsfire?

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I've just received and am in the process of setting up the Winwing A320 EFIS/FCU and MCDU for my desktop sim (MSFS 2024).  Wondering if anyone is currently using BOTH Winwing and Rowsfire products?  I'm looking to get the Rowsfire radio panel.  The Rowsfire quick start guide states: "Cannot be controlled alongside WinWing hardware through MobiFlight due to different drivers."  However it seems to me that Winwing is using a proprietary app (SimAppPro) and NOT Mobiflight.  So they *should* be compatible, yes?  Would still be great to have independent confirmation by someone using both.  Thanks!

As an addendum, has anyone been able to use spad.next with rowsfire products?  Searching for this has not yielded anything useful.

Edited by petdocvmd
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I have the V2 Overhead which works with  mobiflight and Simapppro and the MCDU/FCU+EFIS

Michael Moe

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I got the Rowsfire A107V3 (A320 OH panel) yesterday. Getting it setup with Mobiflight was pretty straight forward (and I've never used Mobiflight before - I've always used SPAD) and I found that using the A107 via Mobiflight and all my other hardware (including the WW MCDU and FCU) via SPAD worked just fine.

That said, the quality of the Rowsfire product for the amount paid is very questionable. There's no way I'd be paying $350USD again for it. Compared to WinWings products, the Rowsfire is very amateurish and low quality. 

 

Kael Oswald

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46 minutes ago, KL Oo said:

I got the Rowsfire A107V3 (A320 OH panel) yesterday. Getting it setup with Mobiflight was pretty straight forward (and I've never used Mobiflight before - I've always used SPAD) and I found that using the A107 via Mobiflight and all my other hardware (including the WW MCDU and FCU) via SPAD worked just fine.

That said, the quality of the Rowsfire product for the amount paid is very questionable. There's no way I'd be paying $350USD again for it. Compared to WinWings products, the Rowsfire is very amateurish and low quality. 

 

Thanks for the feedback!  I've seen posts online to this effect.  However it's hard to wait for WinWings, especially having no idea if they're even working on these components.  I'm especially wanting the radio panel, as I'm using SayIntentions and plan on doing a fair amount of VATSIM flying, and really need a physical knob to twiddle for the radio (though I suppose I could rig up an arduino via SPAD.next as an interim solution).  

5 hours ago, petdocvmd said:

Thanks for the feedback!  I've seen posts online to this effect.  However it's hard to wait for WinWings, especially having no idea if they're even working on these components.  I'm especially wanting the radio panel, as I'm using SayIntentions and plan on doing a fair amount of VATSIM flying, and really need a physical knob to twiddle for the radio (though I suppose I could rig up an arduino via SPAD.next as an interim solution).  

Yeah, I'm probably a little like you in that I really wanted an overhead but don't have any confidence we'll see one from WinWing in the next 12 months (perhaps 18 given their current logistical challenges). There are a few options around that in hindsight I proboably should have explored more....but Rowsfire was quick to ship and have been promoting their products pretty hard.

In any event, lesson learnt. My advice to others would be to try some of the alternatives out there. The quality of the Rowsfire device really is nowhere near $350USD.

Kael Oswald

9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs

10 hours ago, petdocvmd said:

Thanks for the feedback!  I've seen posts online to this effect.  However it's hard to wait for WinWings, especially having no idea if they're even working on these components.  I'm especially wanting the radio panel, as I'm using SayIntentions and plan on doing a fair amount of VATSIM flying, and really need a physical knob to twiddle for the radio (though I suppose I could rig up an arduino via SPAD.next as an interim solution).  

Hiya,

if you want another option, have a look at SimGuages. I’ve got their Airbus overhead and it’s a great bit of kit, excellent quality and also their after sales service was very good too. They have a full suite of pedestal panels including the radio panel. The overhead works with their own proprietary software ( it can also be configured through Mobiflight) and works fine alongside all my winwing gear, I presume the rest of the panels will be the same but you could always check with them before buying.

Hope this helps.

Steve

Well I'm using a series of Winwing products using the simapp pro software, and then a rowsfire A109 ECAM with mobiflight. No issues. 

And to the poster who said about the Rowsfire quality, yeah...I totally agree. It's like a high-school tech project for the money. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, egntpilot said:

Hiya,

if you want another option, have a look at SimGuages. I’ve got their Airbus overhead and it’s a great bit of kit, excellent quality and also their after sales service was very good too. They have a full suite of pedestal panels including the radio panel. The overhead works with their own proprietary software ( it can also be configured through Mobiflight) and works fine alongside all my winwing gear, I presume the rest of the panels will be the same but you could always check with them before buying.

Hope this helps.

Steve

Jeez, the Sim Gauges Captain's set is exactly what I need...think I might put off going for a 5090 and maybe instead go for this.  Will be hard to wait until mid- February!!

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In fact, Rowsfire's current products have already become stable. Many people have had a good experience using A107 V3.1, and I also tried it myself. It is indeed much more optimized compared to the previous versions. The 1:1 scale A111 radio panel of their home is also quite good. The texture is simply not on the same level compared to the mini panel.

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