3 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

I must admit its good to know real pilots, have a friend who flys for qantas, we where discussing manauls. The a380 has 2 one is abot 4000 pages the other 3000 pages, no wonder they dont print them any more, but he and even Janov has mentioned, there are things in the FMS that pilots dont know about and never use, yet people demand it all. and at no cost, of course than you have to by the manuals, hate to think how much they cost, as a pilot you get them for free

FMS or any other modern aircraft systems build "by the FCOM" is almost useless, FCOM only describes how pilot use it, it doesn't provide much detail to replicate it properly.

I know it because I have tried.

16 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

I must admit its good to know real pilots, have a friend who flys for qantas, we where discussing manauls. The a380 has 2 one is abot 4000 pages the other 3000 pages, no wonder they dont print them any more, but he and even Janov has mentioned, there are things in the FMS that pilots dont know about and never use, yet people demand it all. and at no cost, of course than you have to by the manuals, hate to think how much they cost, as a pilot you get them for free

So you haven't sent FlightFactor $500 yet? 🤣

5 hours ago, chapstick said:

So you haven't sent FlightFactor $500 yet? 🤣

Why would I im not demanding a commercial trainer, are you, seems i tron on someone's toes. IF you demand more you should pay for it, nothing is free, everyone has to eat.

Edited July 9Jul 9 by mjrhealth

On 7/4/2026 at 7:10 PM, mjrhealth said:

People will alwats find something to compain about. Seems to be a human trait. Mose people just get in and fly. Its not a commercial trainiing aircraft. They should charge $ 500 us fir all those features

Well, the product is advertised as "The Pinnacle of Airliner Simulation" and stayed as open beta for one year.

Hot Start takes the full potential of XP and offers top notch simulation not charging $ 500.

On 7/11/2026 at 4:58 PM, phbordini said:

Well, the product is advertised as "The Pinnacle of Airliner Simulation" and stayed as open beta for one year.

Hot Start takes the full potential of XP and offers top notch simulation not charging $ 500.

Did you have to pay 500$ ? The CL650 is probably the most amazing plane ever made for any sim but in my opinion the FF777 could hold that title for airliners, as soon as the few last functions have been implemented.