Franz007

Yeah but turbulences is a different topic, so who knows 🤷‍♂️🙂

This makes sense of course. Perhaps it is something that could be something that could be implemented later into the new default-autogen (if any is planned for the next-gen scenery). Or perhaps Laminar themselves could be interested in your work 🙂

@MrBitstFlyer Oh too bad. I was very excited about what you announced so far. But I perfectly understand. Perhaps there is a way to work with X-turb‘s author and implement in future your ground-effects generated by the buildings? I was very curious about that aspect, since it can be very important when flying irl too (and also forests).

The LU

Thanks, will try. But on the Zibo I don’t have that issue…

I don‘t know. I would simply check and compare with vatsim-radar. If it still works good 🙂

And don’t forget Airfoillabs making the Max (not out yet)

Yeah I think the previous versions were quite famous for having an oversensitive trim…

Yeah, try perhaps also to use the maintenance toolkit to be sure it is updated. Jochen suggested me to download it again and use that tool.

That's interesting because I had an exchange with Jochen, the guy who helped improving the FM. And after reinstalling the aircraft it looks liek I may have had an older version (still don't know why that happened). After a new installation, the flight behaviour and trim during approach were really comparable to the ZIBO and not near as bad as I stated before (my bad)

I am really having big issues handflying this plane. I installed the last update but something is wrong with the trim. During take offs, I have to pull the yoke fully back at Vr to get it in the air and pull like crazy. It is extremely nose-heavy. That can be solved by triming it up more than according to what the CG says. But then during approaches, as soon as I disconnect the autopilot, it doesn’t seem to be trimed correctly. And triming it up or down by only one notch makes it react very nervously, so that a balanced approach is extremely challenging and feels unnatural. I don’t have that at all with the ZIBO.

Did you have to pay 500$ ? The CL650 is probably the most amazing plane ever made for any sim but in my opinion the FF777 could hold that title for airliners, as soon as the few last functions have been implemented.

I have definitively also noticed quite some inacuracies as you describe. The temp, pressure and winds are usually excellent and very close to what the latest official metar says. But the cloud coverage and visibility is pretty often a miss. I also tested some airports in an area with big storms, ugly weather and very bad visibility (many times). And in XP it is often just scattered and visibility seems to be 10+ km or at least clearly better than what it should be. What is weird is that for you it seems to be the opposite? Perhaps related to the area? As far as I remember, the accuracy used to be better around 6 months ago. I think Marco is aware of something related to the weather needing improvement. At least LR is aware of the radar-returns not being shown anymore and this should be fixed. Let’s hope it will also fix what we are talking about here.

I haven‘t had it as extreme as you describe. But I absolutely withess something like a flash and the sky colours (and haze) changing within 1 sec. But the cloud coverage seemed to stay more or less identical as it happened (every 30-60 minutes as an estimate)

You can absolutely get great results from USGS in specific areas — no argument there. The problem is that USGS only covers the U.S., and even within the U.S. the resolution varies a lot. Once you step outside U.S. borders, there’s no equivalent free 15–30 cm source. Europe, Asia, Africa, South America… all the high‑res data is commercial. That’s where the real issue starts: Laminar can’t build a global product on top of a patchwork of “free here, pay there” imagery. And they can’t redistribute processed USGS tiles either — even if the imagery is free, the derivative product still has licensing restrictions unless you host it yourself

The tech for cleaning up imagery isn’t really the issue. The real blocker is licensing. High‑res imagery (30–50 cm) isn’t free, and the companies that own it—Maxar, Google, Bing, Esri—don’t allow cheap redistribution to hundreds of thousands of end users. Their pricing is negotiated case‑by‑case and gets very expensive once you need multi‑user rights.The “taxpayer‑funded” datasets you mention (Sentinel, Landsat) are 10–30 m resolution, which is far too low for a flight sim. There’s no free global high‑res source Laminar could legally stream.

same! I just wanted to write it here. I'm having the same error-message...

Well I think there is a simple reason for that. The licence costs for streaming orthos for the whole world in a high resolution are not only very high...they are horrendous. And added to that, Austin also said that he didn't like them because you'll see a lot of shadows, snow-patches and weird colours (from the aerial capturing). What will most likely happen is that they will use these satelite-imageries to build a more simplified kind of world but most likely not stream orthos 1:1.

I am using the free autoortho and it is not perfect. There are some inconsistencies from time to time and a few tiles stucked in low-res (but only like 1-2% of them). This is only noticeable when flying very low, where MSFS for sure has an advantage. But above 3000ft - together with simheaven - it can look absolutely fantastic. And I also noticed that the quality varies a lot from country to country. But I would personnally not call it simply « decent ». It adds a lot to the visual immersion. Here a good example:

@MrBitstFlyer Fantastic job! Many thanks 🙏👍

That's weird...for me it's like night & day and I even have to admit that I couldn't fly without it 🙂

No no, it’s already an issue in the default XP12-version. I was just wondering if there was something we could do about that…

Great news and I really start to appreciate that plugin more and more. A think I still don't understand quite well, is why there are some layer of haze appearing out of nowhere. Is that a known bug in XP12 that cannot be fixed now?

Thanks for your help 👍 Will do that. And another thing I noticed: at each refresh (300 sec) the sim freezes for about 5-10 seconds, although having excluded the script-folder from the virus-checks…

I still see some very abrupt haze-changes, that are my main problem when doing VFR-flights...do any of you guys know why?