Way over exaggerated , I never noticed the aircraft pulling left on takeoff or power on stalls

3 minutes ago, XMAN said:

Way over exaggerated , I never noticed the aircraft pulling left on takeoff or power on stalls

We're talking about a 172, right? Even a Vy climb (never mind Vx) needs a good amount of pressure on the right rudder to keep the ball centered. It's not exactly subtle...

Well a Beech Sierra, Sundowner, Piper Warrior and Cessna 152, and 1 hour in a 172

As a side note, different aircraft of the same model can behave quite differently, and again although I do not have a SEP pilot license even gliders of the very same model can have their peculiarities...

OTOH some aircraft require techniques that probably most simmers never explore or even become aware of. I recall the first time I flew the glider I own irl, and LS1-C, and was told to start the takeoff run with full spoilers, and then progressively retract them as I gained speed 🥴

I thought the guy telling me that was joking, but indeed he wasn't, and indeed that's the correct procedure for taking off in this model because the turbulent flow from the tug when affected by the spoilers, creates an important swirl of turbulent air that brings the ailerons alive sooner, and that's really important in the LS1 :-)

I am yet to find a nice and detailed model of an LS1 in any of the flight simulation platforms I use(d) ... So... as simmers we should be good with acceptable sketches / caricatures of the models we vly(*), regarding how they actually fly... but I tend to be picky / neurotic about flight dynamics accuracy...

(*) vly = virtually fly

Edited Friday at 09:16 AM2 days by jcomm

4 hours ago, jcomm said:

but I tend to be picky / neurotic about flight dynamics accuracy...

Really???

😂

There is a refined flight model for the default 172SP: https://store.x-plane.org/C-172S-C-172R-C-172MN-Enhanced-Flight-Models_p_1200.html

I will wait for 12.5 because many changes are coming, both FM and reciprocating/turboprop/jet engine and systems...

On 6/24/2026 at 8:37 AM, Avcomware said:

Hi Everyone.

Have any of you (CFI) found a mod and or a complete 172 model that has the proper behavior when performing Commercial / Ground / Flight maneuvers, using Jstick and Rudder pedals?

I am unable to find a good mod to get the XP12 to perform properly, by book / practical test standards . I was able to the X11, X10, X9... to get a credible behavior but unable to get good results on X12.

Some of the problems are on the ground in Xwind with full power, over banking in left turns and many others..

I've attempted some wing mods, ground friction.. Thank you.

FWIW, I reinstalled the SimCoders REP for the Default 172 (I normally fly the Airfoil Labs).

Really excellent experience, once again, and as usual, really highlights wherever I’ve gotten sloppy with handling.