SparkerInVR

I have been spending quite a bit of time using my yoke in VR while streaming on Twitch in MSFS and X-Plane. I use a HP Reverb G2 with my Valve Index controllers so they are strapped to my hands with my fingers available to control the yoke. I was taught in a Cessna 172 to keep the plane in trim and only use finger tips to control the yoke. This yoke has brought back those times and I do hand fly most of the time for hours just enjoying what I had hopped my Fulcrum would bring me. Matched with my MSG Crosswinds pedals I am having so much fun reliving my real life training in a Cessna 172. Thanks Bill

When I tried using WMR I could only bring in one window into the VR cockpit. With OVR Toolkit I can bring in as many as I want resize each one differently besides bringing in the whole desktop if I wish. Any window on my desktop can be brought into the VR space. I normally have 3 or 4 windows from my desktop when I am streaming. For flight simulation another big plus is you can change the opacity of each window to suit your needs. It is the best $12 I have spent on any VR product or software.

Just did a quick test in 2d and had forgot to remove the old folder from Community so I had two. Removed the old one then restarted and all is well. Will be testing it in VR this morning and will let you know how it goes. I am currently just using the text display but have used the PDF part in the previous version and did work well. Flight went well in VR using my HP Reverb G2 with my Valve Index controllers and EBAG performed as expected. Thanks Bill

@Spit40, I installed your Electronic Flight Bag for VR amd was getting a CTD so cleaned out my Community folder and started with just your program and all was well. I found that when I had christian1984-ingamepanel-vfrmapforvr also installed I got the CTD. The fact that I need to have a way to view text and PDF files in the VR cockpit means I will be keeping yours but is there a way for these both to get along? On X-Plane I use AviTab which does both functions and so much more so it will be interesting how all this will work out in the end. Thanks Bill

I have used OVR Toolkit since January this year in X-Plane and was glad when I found I could also use in MSFS. The developer never seems to stop making improvements and fixing any bugs found in short order. I am a Twitch streamer so needed to find a way to get my chat into my VR headset and OVR Toolkit was the answer and so much more. I do plan on doing a stream soon on the tools I am using to allow you to stream MSFS in VR.

So turning a com knob with your mouse do you feel the clicks from the Knob? On X-Plane using my Index controllers I can. I also do not need a flat surface to put the mouse on because my controllers are on my hands ready to be used.

I have OVR Toolkit working with my HP Reverb G2 by using "Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR" and setting SteamVR in Developer Current OpenXR Runtime to SteamVR. I also have fpsVR running.

I just got this to work in MSFS but have very bad frames in the 30's. I have the Microsoft Store version and am using Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR with Current OpenXR Runtime set to SteamVR. I did move my Chatty into VR using OVR Toolkit which is what I wanted to do to help me stream Twitch in VR. I have much more testing to do but it proved that this will work.

I have been using VR in X-Plane for 3 years and starting streaming at the beginning of this year on Twitch. I currently have a Valve Index and a HP Reverb G2 that I use my Index controllers with. I fly with a Fulcrum One yoke and a MFG Crosswinds pedals and always have my Index controllers an my hands so using a mouse would be very different to me. I have been flying MSFS a little using Track IR but it is just not the same as VR. I also tried the poor mans VR but did not like that at all. Will wait for the real thing and hope we do not have to wait to long to get touch controller support. From my 3 years of VR experience I know what I think VR controller interaction should look like and will be interesting how MSFS stacks up.

I am currently using Valve Index controllers with my HP Reverb G2 on X-Plane 11. I do wonder if that will also work with MSFS VR.

Yesterday I got my new HP Reverb G2 to work with my Valve Index controllers so this should be fun.

Wow I can't believe that my returned yoke is still being held in Warehouse in Castle Donington, United Kingdom.

I see it is still being held.

Chris, When I checked the tracking of my return it looks like it is Held in Warehouse in Castle Donington, United Kingdom. Not sure why. Bill

@Spit40, Which sim are you flying in? I have tested in X-Plane 11 VR and plan to next test in MSFS using Track IR. Bill

Wow I did not know that a VID costs $6000 but now it make more sense. Thanks for improving my understanding of USB devices. Bill

I did about 6 or 8 circuits at KERI in X-Plane 11.50r3 Windows using the default Cessna 172 with the REP expansion pack. First couple of landing were quite hard getting used to the increased throw of the yoke and not flaring enough. They continued to improve as I learned how far to pull the yoke back. This was while using the Valve Index with its touch controllers that were on my hands at all times. I have been waiting for some time to be able to do this test and it has exceeded my expectations. It took a little bit of time to get the virtual cockpit adjusted where I can touch every switch without hitting the yoke. A very happy Bill

Yes the yoke works fine with no issues. The issue is that each USB device should have a unique identifier so the OS and sim can tell the difference.

I am seeing the same thing on my Windows install when looking at Events of the HID controller. Device HID\VID_0000&PID_0000\8&961a9fd&0&0000 was started. I have worked with USB devices for a very long time as the author of Xsaitekpanels and have never seen this before from any USB device. The VID should be the Vendor and the PID is the product identifier. Thanks Bill

Is there a reason the ID is 0000:0000? On my system Device 033 is the Fulcrum One Yoke. bill@billsvr-2004:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 003: ID 28de:2400 Valve Software Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0424:5744 Microchip Technology, Inc. (formerly SMSC) Hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 020: ID 06a3:0d67 Saitek PLC Pro Flight Switch Panel Bus 001 Device 032: ID 16d0:0a38 MCS Bus 001 Device 033: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 017: ID 131d:0159 Natural Point Bus 001 Device 013: ID 1a40:0201 Terminus Technology Inc. FE 2.1 7-port Hub Bus 001 Device 034: ID 24c6:581b Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1a40:0201 Terminus Technology Inc. FE 2.1 7-port Hub Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0b05:18a3 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. Bus 001 Device 015: ID 046d:c534 Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver Bus 001 Device 012: ID 09eb:0131 IM Networks, Inc. Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05e3:0610 Genesys Logic, Inc. 4-port hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05e3:0610 Genesys Logic, Inc. 4-port hub Bus 001 Device 016: ID 0424:2740 Microchip Technology, Inc. (formerly SMSC) Bus 001 Device 014: ID 28de:2102 Valve Software Bus 001 Device 011: ID 28de:2102 Valve Software Bus 001 Device 007: ID 28de:2300 Valve Software Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0424:2744 Microchip Technology, Inc. (formerly SMSC) Hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 28de:2613 Valve Software Bus 001 Device 008: ID 8087:0aaa Intel Corp. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub bill@billsvr-2004:~$ Thanks Bill

I also had a issue with shipping damage but Chris was quick to respond and get a replacement yoke sent to me. The damaged yoke left today to go back to Chris. Thanks Bill

Chris, Since you have a few yokes out in the field can you attach your joystick config files for your yoke here so we can test before it gets included with the next version of X-Plane? Thanks Bill

Thanks Chris, I guess mine must have been in the picture because I have also received a email from UPS that says that it will be delivered on Wednesday 10/21/2020. Bill

Hi Chris, I see that now we can see inside the yoke. Thanks Bill

I have been using X-Plane VR for over 2 years and currently using a Valve Index. I currently am using a Saitek yoke and MFG Crosswinds pedals. Since I have the Index I always have my controllers on my hands and use touch controls for everything else in the virtual cockpit. I am also using MSFS but using Track IR till we get VR support and also have the HP Reverb G2 on pre-order. I plan on using my Index touch controllers with my G2 so this will be a interesting ride. Bill