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What do you think on PMDG making a Cessna 172! I think this would be good for all people who are GA enthusiasts and like PMDG's work

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Peter,That would make no sense at all. Carenado allready has GA aircrafts with (as I like to call it) PMDG quality. I'm sure PMDG wouldn't feel anything for requests like this. Kind regards,Raymond

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However, Garmin is certifying the G700 system to be used in a VLJ (the Mustang I think) that acts a lot like a big iron FMC complete with VNAV... a variant was featured in the current AOPA pilot magazine stuffed into a Cessna T-182T of all things - albeit missing autothrottle that the jet will have. Might be a day when it would be fun to have a VLJ to play air taxi.

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This is true, but carenado does not make a cessna 172. Flight 1 does, but I feel it is not as nice as it could be. They should make a late 70's 172

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>Flight1 does, but I feel it is not as nice as it could be. I disagree. I think it is excellent and hard to beat quality based on my 200+ hours experience in a real aircraft. Also not sure I follow what 'late 70's' has to do with it. Unless you get to a real recent 172 with Garmin 1000, fuel injected, etc. there is little that would make a worthwile difference to a simmer. If PMDG were to tackle a GA aircraft I think they should pick a bit more high performance craft and I won't even volunteer to pick a model since there are so many to chose from.Michael J.http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9320/apollo17vf7.jpg

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>Garmin is certifying the G700 system to be used in a>VLJ (the Mustang I think) that acts a lot like a big iron FMC>complete with VNAV... You probably meant G1000 with G700 autopilot.Quite a few GA already have both - even a tiny Diamond DA40. Michael J.http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9320/apollo17vf7.jpg

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The late 70's simply means that there are no GA makers for flight sim who have made a 1970's 172. A 172, not 182. I feel this is a good aircraft and I think that PMDG makes good aircraft so they should try a GA.

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>The late 70's simply means that there are no GA makers for>flight sim who have made a 1970's 172. Ok, the Flight1's 172 is fuel injected (version "R") so it doesn't have carburator heat. What else is there different from a typical 172 of the 70's that would justify a completely new simulation?. The engine in the 172R has slightly different parameters, the cabin is also better sound-proofed, not a big deal. Is there any sense to develop a new simulation of a "plain" 172 so someone could have carburator heat to play with (with probably very dubious simulation of carburator ice to start with) or have noisier cabin interior. In my opinion the answer is self evident. ;)Michael J.http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9320/apollo17vf7.jpg

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No plans to make any GA at the moment, but please don't assume that all we can (or want) to do is hugely complex glass and FMCs...

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What is the possibility of making a GA like a 172? Why not make one?

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How about something bushy... like a Cessna 185, Piper Aztec, Grumman Goose or Widgeon?Regards,Ted Panamarioff - Kodiak, Alaska

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I'd be willing to bet that Captain Robert still wants to do the Yak...Jim Liebenstein

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This is a strange request. The Flight 1, although I don't have it, looks really good. Being Flight 1, I imagine it's a great aircraft too. The bottom line is, we have a good selection of GA from Dreamfleet, Carenado, and Flight 1, among others.The aircraft that seems to be neglected the most by pay vendors are bush planes and business jets. We have maybe two good bush planes (e.g., DA Do-27). The only business jets are Eaglesoft and one from FeelThere. Those are not up to the level of quality that DF, F1, DA, PMDG, or LDS are.I'm begging DF (Lou) to make the Falcon 900EX he mentioned. PMDG could stand to make a commuter or business jet, but the rest are probably easier than PMDG want to tackle.

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I agree...A nice PMDG quality Biz Jet would be awesome...Gulfstream, Challenger, Falcon... any heavy iron Biz jet...Regards,Ted Panamarioff - Kodiak, Alaska

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>What is the possibility of making a GA like a 172? Why not>make one?because "one" already exists.Michael J.

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My main thing is a 172.

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CESSNA 172 is my main request

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I agree with you a good Gulfstream 550 would be awesome. With a range of 6,750NM the possible destinations would be endless.

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After reading Ryan's response the first thing that popped into my head was; "Everything is possible. However, everything is not always probable." In short, give up on the idea of any kind of C172. There's probably not much of a demand for it which would explain why only one developer out of all that are out there has actually tackled the project.I agree with the rest of the group, though. The biz jet and bush a/c have been neglected far too long. :)

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>I like the larger corporate jets like the BBJ or the ACJ. If>I'm not mistaken, PMDG is technically already working on both>for FSX? (BBJ=NGX ACJ=A320,A319)>>Ryan Gamurot>Lucky to live Hawai'iI don't know much about PMDG's Airbus, as very little information has been released about that one, to my knowledge.However, I seem to remember Robert saying that BBJ 1 (Boeing Business Jet 1) and BBJ 2 (Boeing business Jet 2) is included in the 737NGX package.Of course, this might have been changed by now. Only time will tell, I guess.Other than that, I personally would love to see a developer make the Gulfstream G550. That is an impressive Bizjet, and judging by the number of reguests I have seen, it's strange that no developer has taken on the challenge. If it happens, though, I hope it is someone that can make them in PMDG quality.I would like to see PMDG continue making airliners, as the experience they have by now is invaluable and their products are close to perfection. However, should PMDG develope a GA aircraft, it would be interesting to see the result:-)RaymondNorway

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From what i have read in other forums, the Gulfstream company doesn

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the general consensus seems to be that a bizjet might be more appropriate, given PMDG's skill in jets etc. and I for one would not mind which bizjet, as long as it had all the usual from PMDG, including a nice VC, FS9 compatibility (most of us still use that sim) and a working FMC among other things. I think to make a GA aircraft might be a bit of a waste of PMDG's undisputed skill in that area of systems. Dassault Falcon would be nice...

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