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I have just been on the web site admiring the MD-11 and trying to sneak a download ;) when I noticed that contrary to what PMDG promised, the NGX is now the next project.Does this mean that the promised Airbus is, no more?

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I guess so...:-roll Why no Airbus, why!!!!!I really don't understand why Airbus is getting this stepchild treatment. Ok, it is remarquably difficult to simulate, fair enough, but is it that hard?Anyway, the MD-11 will make me forget the bus for a while :)

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>I guess so...:-roll >>Why no Airbus, why!!!!!>>I really don't understand why Airbus is getting this stepchild>treatment. Ok, it is remarquably difficult to simulate, fair>enough, but is it that hard?>>Anyway, the MD-11 will make me forget the bus for a while :) First of all, Airsimmer seems to put off a well high quality Airbus some time near.And PMDG never PROMISED anything so don't claim if they decide that the concurrent has done an amazing job on their upcoming Airbus series.They firstly focus on the long awaited B737NGX after the beautifull MD11 as I can see.Notice I'm not a PMDG developer so PMDG correct me if I'm wrong :(!Best regards, Joey

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>First of all, Airsimmer seems to put off a well high quality>Airbus some time near.>And PMDG never PROMISED anything so don't claim if they decide>that the concurrent has done an amazing job on their upcoming>Airbus series.>They firstly focus on the long awaited B737NGX after the>beautifull MD11 as I can see.>Notice I'm not a PMDG developer so PMDG correct me if I'm>wrong :(!>>Best regards, JoeyJoey,I'm waiting for the Airsimmer model too, believe me from the day they annonced it :)I didn't imply that PMDG promised anything, I know PMDG never revealed anything official on it. What I mean't by "stepchild treatment" was for the whole simming industry, I mean, the A320 series has been around since the late 80's, to this day this wonderful aircraft has never been fully replicated for FS (except for the PSS and Wilco models, but they're no real Airbus). Wilco gave it a good shot but it didn't satisfy people like me who expect PMDG/LVLD realism, but I'm sure Wilco's bus is admired by some. As for the NGX, I would buy that aircraft the day it hits the market regardless of it's price, that's how much I'm waiting for it :)The MD-11 is a completely new airplane in terms of systems, so like I said earlier, I will probably forget about any other manufacturer going through all those manuals :)Happy landings

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How can I put this tactfully...?I don't care about the airbus, now or ever.

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"Promised" was never my interpretation of what I heard back then. I heard through the grapevine at least 7-8 months ago (maybe even 1 full year ago) that PDMG wasn't doing the Airbus right now. Maybe that was a rumor but at any rate I don't know if there was ever anything said by members of PDMG on the subject. It seems that this is a reality, since the NGX seems to be next.RhettFS box: E8500 (@ 3.80 ghz), AC Freezer 7 Pro, ASUS P5E3 Premium, BFG 8800GTX 756 (nVidia 169 WHQL), 4gb DDR3 1600 Patriot Cas7 7-7-7-20 (2T), PC Power 750, WD 150gb 10000rpm Raptor, Seagate 500gb, Silverstone TJ09 case, Vista Ultimate 64ASX Client: AMD 3700+ (@ 2.6 ghz), 7800GT

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What a very sweeping and selfish statement. Thankfully there are more people out there than you who do. If you had nothing constructive to say about a PMDG Airbus, why bother?>How can I put this tactfully...?>>I don't care about the airbus, now or ever.Greg B

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Well I really don't know if it started out as a rumor or as an idea. but I do remember that the subject was raised several times. As far as I'm concerned for me it's just a wish and I do know as a fact that there are more here who would like to see not only a PMDG Airbus but any of their favorite aircraft done by PMDG :)

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>You must be new, on here.Actually, no. I forgot to mention in my previous post; don't jump to conclusions, as I see you are doing right now ;).You'll be forgotten the Airbus long after the PMDG MD11 has been released.Best regards, Joey

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>>You must be new, on here.>>Actually, no. >I forgot to mention in my previous post; don't jump to>conclusions, as I see you are doing right now ;).>You'll be forgotten the Airbus long after the PMDG MD11 has>been released.>>Best regards, JoeyFor your information, and before you registered on here the MD-11 was the result of a vote that PMDG organised as to what aircraft we would like next.The MD-11 came 1st in the poll and an Airbus was muted as the 2nd choice to be made after completion of the MD-11.The Airbus was to come BEFORE the NGX but due to the enthusiasm of posters on here PMDG changed the development to concentrate on renewing there best seller the 737NG.Good to have memories, isn't it? ;)

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lol, their new aircraft is not even on the servers yet and people are already thinking about the next project.....I don't really care what PMDG do next although I do know the NGX will go a long way to persuading me to remove FS9 from my hard drive. Whatever the project there's only a couple of current developers who have been proven to produce commercial aircraft of the highest quality so whatever PMDG do it'll be excellent.Dan.

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>For your information, and before you registered on here the>MD-11 was the result of a vote that PMDG organised as to what>aircraft we would like next.>The MD-11 came 1st in the poll and an Airbus was muted as the>2nd choice to be made after completion of the MD-11.>The Airbus was to come BEFORE the NGX but due to the>enthusiasm of posters on here PMDG changed the development to>concentrate on renewing there best seller the 737NG.>>Good to have memories, isn't it? ;)Oh well, it's just a matter of opinions to say what is new..Anyway if you want the Airbus by starting this thread, go ahead.And I'm now off this thread to follow the latest MD11 progresses, and reading further in my manuals.Regards, Joey

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>I really don't understand why Airbus is getting this stepchild>treatment. Ok, it is remarquably difficult to simulate, fair>enough, but is it that hard?This is just not true, a myth like that has been around for years in the PC flightsim world... and it really is not true.Airbus is not at all magic, and if good and talented people can simulate an MD-11 then a FBW Airbus is of course also very much possible.Why has there never been a FBW Airbus so far at the highest quality level? Simple: There are only a handful of high quality developers around on this planet, doing an aircraft at that level takes a lot of time, and there are a lot of aircraft out there to simulate.It will come, it just needs time... Maybe it will be Airsimmer, maybe PMDG, who knows...Regards,Markus

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I couldint agree more... Airbuses are in high demand but from what was said above only a few great developers actually take the time to produce the best possible aircraft they can no matter what is is. PMDG is definitely one of these developers. Ill buy any product PMDG produces because I know I'm getting the best value for my money.The pricing is also in my opinion fantastic... Spending 80 dollars on a 744 is a heck of alot cheaper than running a R/W sim for 800 dollars an hour. Or buying the real plane for 80 million ( just a guess ).Bottom line is I'm happy with any aircraft PMDG decides to produce even if its not a Boeing. The more variation out in the market the better.

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> Maybe it will be Airsimmer, maybe PMDG, who knows...>>Regards,>MarkusSomeone told me recently that the AirlinerXP project was still going ahead, but that they'd chosen to follow a 'LevelD 757 project' style. That is, carry on with the work, but not run a forum, etc. I've no idea whatsoever if this info is correct though.

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>This is just not true, a myth like that has been around for>years in the PC flightsim world... and it really is not true.>Airbus is not at all magic, and if good and talented people>can simulate an MD-11 then a FBW Airbus is of course also very>much possible.Thank you Markus, that is exactly my opinion.>>Why has there never been a FBW Airbus so far at the highest>quality level? Simple: There are only a handful of high>quality developers around on this planet, doing an aircraft at>that level takes a lot of time, and there are a lot of>aircraft out there to simulate.That is the part which intrigues me, I mean, we are talking about an aircraft which has been around for years of succesful commercial flying. Yeah, well, it makes sense, it does take a while to develop a good add-on. We (Airbus fans) will just have to be patient.I am only being the devil's advocat here but could be that most of these developpers are US based and that Airbus is european and because of this there may be a little bit of a tendancy to prioritize american manufacturers? (Please do not take this seriously, I am just kidding :D)

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>Why has there never been a FBW Airbus so far at the highest>quality level? Simple: There are only a handful of high>quality developers around on this planet, doing an aircraft at>that level takes a lot of time, and there are a lot of>aircraft out there to simulate.>>It will come, it just needs time... Maybe it will be>Airsimmer, maybe PMDG, who knows...>>Regards,>MarkusMarkus,Do the improved facilities for FBW, available "natively" now that the A321 is a default aircraft in FSX, improve or simplify development for a high-fidelity airbus?Thank you,Jeff

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Guys,We have ALWAYS said the new NG was going to be the next plane after the MD-11. There was never anything said to the effect that the 320 would be next. We will continue to evaluate the Airbus market moving forward...

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>I guess so...:-roll >>Why no Airbus, why!!!!!>>I really don't understand why Airbus is getting this stepchild>treatment. Ok, it is remarquably difficult to simulate, fair>enough, but is it that hard?> If it's not that hard then why don't you do it yourself? I assume you want a top-quality MD-11. Do you think you would get such a product if PMDG were working on 4 projects at the same time (MD-11 for FSX, MD-11 for FS9, 737NGX, and the Airbus)?-Jake

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> If it's not that hard then why don't you do it yourself?Very wise question, really good.> I assume you want a top-quality MD-11. Do you think you would>get such a product if PMDG were working on 4 projects at the>same time (MD-11 for FSX, MD-11 for FS9, 737NGX, and the>Airbus)?>Jake, please read all the posts, at least all MY posts before quoting ME on anything.

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>Do the improved facilities for FBW, available "natively" now>that the A321 is a default aircraft in FSX, improve or>simplify development for a high-fidelity airbus?Jeff,unfortunately the default A321 FBW simulation is not really close to the real Airbus so I doubt this will be of any help for an Airbus add-on. I mean it's a start but it's very basic and simplified.Markus

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Let's imagine what other 'hardcore' modern airliner PMDG can do after the NGX:717 - ?737 Classic - Wilco737NG - PMDG747-400 - PMDG757 -Captainsim/Level-D767 -Level-D767-400 - ?777 - PSS787 - No one knows what it will look likeA300/A310 - SSWA32X - AirsimmerA330 - AirsimmerA340-200/300 - AirsimmerA340-500/600 - Wilco A380 - Wilco MD-11 - PMDGMD-80 - Lago?ATR - Flight1ERJ-145 - WilcoERJ-170/190 - WilcoCRJ - ?Dash-8 - PSSIn my opinion, PMDG would most likely do the 777 or 717. Alternatively PMDG may try doing the A300/A310, CRJ, Dash-8 or the big FBW Airbuses. (A380 downwards)Or they can really go crazy and do the Tupolev 204.

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