$28 To Upgrade?

[Ricardo41 5,936]

this is a typo, right?Ricardo

[Guest bigun]

Ricardo,No. it's not a typo. ASV is a new product with many new features. Worth every penny of the upgrade price. I have AS2004 and opted to purchase the full version rather than the upgrade. Supporting the AS team in this way is the least I can do for a fine group of developers and beta testers.

[TonyB 1]

I agree with Bigun, though I have not purchased anything yet as Paypal keeps erroring on me. ;) This is a new program with lots of new features.Tony

[Guest rabbitcancer]

I concur with the original poster...I am not happy with the $28 upgrade price - in it's own right, ASV is definitely worth $38 for a first time buyer, but you guys have gotten greedy and you are punishing your previous customers for it.If it had been $20 - I doubt anyone would have complained.Devon.

[Guest davidvoogd]

Though everyone has a right to question pricing - in all fairness I think it should be pointed out that Active Environment in itself is comparable to Flight Environment - and that sells for about $25 alone. Add integration with activesky, and the many new features and personally I don' think $27 is too bad. At least it's not Euros! LOL

[Ricardo41 5,936]

Here is the point: I already have Flight Environment, so, in paying for the upgrade, I would be paying for features I don't really need.I almost never complain about addon prices, but I bought the original ActiveSky for, what?, $25 + a $28 upgrade - that ups the ante considerably.ricardo

[Guest rabbitcancer]

Apart from the blind leading the blind here...I state again that $20 would have been more than reasonable.Yes - I like activeskyYes - I think it's a great programNo - I don't think that I should have to pay out the same (close to) amount of money to upgrade to the new version.

[Guest steku]

It's free market. You think the price isn't fair - enjoy flying with old version.

[tanker 15]

>It's free market. You think the price isn't fair - enjoy>flying with old version.Good suggestion. This is supposed to be a whole new program, but, from a user's viewpoint, it is simply an improvement on real weather for FS9. Of all the commercial product upgrades (that I know of), only RealAir charged for an upgrade, and it was only a nominal amount. Considering all the download problems, I think it's best to wait a bit and get some objective viewpoints from the those that managed to get it installed - then we can all make a decision on the worth of this upgrade.Dale

[JRBarrett 3,048]

>Here is the point: I already have Flight Environment, so, in>paying for the upgrade, I would be paying for features I don't>really need.>>I almost never complain about addon prices, but I bought the>original ActiveSky for, what?, $25 + a $28 upgrade - that ups>the ante considerably.>ricardoAlthough ASV is being offered as an "upgrade" for previous customers, it's much more than a mere upgrade. It's a completely new program.I've been using the original AS2004 for over one year, and have logged hundreds of hours flying with it. I feel I have received my original $25 worth many, many times over. What's more, during the lifetime of the product, Damian released well over a dozen "mini" upgrades to AS2004, which cost absolutely nothing. While some parts of those upgrades fixed bugs, other parts added new and improved features - again, at no cost.Considering the greatly expanded feature set of ASV, and especially considering the thousands of hours that Damian and Chris have undoubtedly spent writing the new software, creating new graphics etc, I certainly think $28 is more than fair.Jim Barrett

[Guest]

Wow not even 30 dollars to pay for a program that gives amazing weather detail!!! How cheap can you be? These people work hard for months and only charge a price that is cheaper than dinner and a movie and people can't wait to complain? I held out for ASV and purchased the full version because I knew the new one was coming out and I held out. But even if I paid for the old one, I would gladly pay a few bucks to thank these people and help with future products and upgrades. Besides, you aren't paying just for the program but for the countless hours of future upgrades as well.

[Guest Muppet22]

If you don't like the price, then don't buy it. It's that simple.$28 is not a lot of cash, especially here in the UK where the

[JoeD 0]

I just bought AS2004.5 about a Week ago! Yes! Seven days ago!!!Now, much has been made of the fact that there has been plenty of advance notice about ASV and I should have known better,etc.However, this asumes a lot, perhaps too much!Fact 1): I did not frequent the fourm and just registered today!. The first time I visited the AS site was last week when I purchased AS 2004.5. The ample advance notice argument does not really apply.Fact 2): I was not familar with "Active sky" at all and had to sift through a bewildering and confusing aray of info to try and determine what version I needed/wanted! I had just purchased "Flight 1 FE" and thought that ASV mainly duplicated what FE provided.Fact 3) Right up the the last minute you were still promoting old version and this just added to the confusion!!! What make matters worse, there is a still older (boxed) version is still being sold on some sites!I now do understand that ASV is a completely new program and you have every right to treat it as such.Money is not an issue with me.However, I sincerly believe that I have been taken advantage of and evidently, I'm not the only one.There really should have been some sort of comparison chart (even a very basic one), etc to help those uneducated in AS to help them determine what version they wanted. This is what most other software companies do.Finally, I have seen a lot in my 57 years and this one just doesn't sit right!

[Guest AndrewW]

Thirty Dollars is nothing for the amount of work people are putting into these additions for Flight Simulator. I think additions such as ASV, PMDG, LVLD are very much under priced for the time and effort development takes. Expect to see these prices continue to increase over the next few years as more time is required to deliver what people have come to expect from such authors.

[Guest tg272]

Hey, I purchased ActiveSky many moons ago when you had to have that damned WeatherX, or whatever it was, underlayer already. Then I bought 4.0 then upgrade to 4.5.Now I change computers and can't find the original underlying layer to reinstall 4.0 and 4.5 (because they were upgrades). So I use WideFS and purchase the ASV upgrade with the intent of installing it on that machine.What I'd really like to do is get a full install version of ASV so I could install it on BOTH machines (one's a laptop). You'd think after all the money I've shelled for this product (well over a $100 at this point), it would be a snap to ge done. Maybe it is? Anyone listening.Oh, and BTW, I also own Flight Environment, with which I'm very satisfied. I'll use both. I usually do purchase add-ons when they come out 'cause I like to take advantage of the technology. But I have to agree with Ricardo, particularly in my situation in which HiFi SImulations, I think, almost purposefully forces the user into --- the complicated install/upgrade requirements of it's predecessors and current pricing of its new product.tg272