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R4D - DC-3 Progress Report

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Hi Bill and everyone else at MAAMSim,Happy New Year to all of you!!From the look of the work you have posted, you have an absolutely magnificent bird on your hands. It is well worth the wait. Is this beauty going to be compatible with fs2k2? I hope so because a new computer to run 2k4 is not an option now. If not, I will just have to admire the screenshots aplenty that will be posted when you do let it out of the hangar...Take care and have a safe, happy New Year...

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Sure do want to buy the CD and fly your R4D. The plane looks fabulous both in civilian and Mil paint. It was mentioned that work is in progress on the panels for the civilian model. Will there be a big difference between the R4D and civ panels? The 2D panels look just great!!

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Great work, I look forward to this one!Any chance there might be window glass / reflections seen from the VC? I think the "holes" shown in the screenshots detract from the incredible realism of all the texture work you've shown in the cockpit.Best,Joel

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Wow, awesome shots, looks very , very nice!! Since I rarely use a 2D panel, I hope the VC will look as nice as the pics above. Will the entire compartment be modeled or just the cockpit??Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpgCalVirAir International VACougar Mountain Helicopters & Aviation[link:www.cgrmthelos.com]Cougar Mountain Helicopters

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WOW, I have to say thats about the nicest looking panel I have seen so far. I think the bar has been raised a notch.Andrew

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looks like a very stunning piece of work there! :D the panel looks exceptional!Cheers,

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>Any chance there might be window glass / reflections seen from>the VC? I think the "holes" shown in the screenshots detract>from the incredible realism of all the texture work you've>shown in the cockpit.Joel, you're looking at the 2D cockpit here.AFAIK no 'glass reflections' possible here at this time. For screenshots of the VC go here : http://www.avsim.com/vfr_center/photos/spe...screenshots.htmScroll down to the last 5 screenshots, if that ain't glass reflection i'll eat my MAAM cap. (-:best regards,Jan

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>Wow, awesome shots, looks very , very nice!! Since I rarely>use a 2D panel, I hope the VC will look as nice as the pics>above. Will the entire compartment be modeled or just the>cockpit??Michael, just fly overhere :http://www.avsim.com/vfr_center/photos/spe...screenshots.htmDon't mind the visual model screenies, the're rather old already. The VC, including radio/bagage compartiment and cabin is about what you're gonna get although that'll be updated to some extend as well.best regards,Jan

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You guys at the MAAM are so cruel!!! WE still have to wait for such a long time! These pictures are awesome. I like the default DC-3 but this is incredible! This is not a simulation, this must be the real thing! :-jumpy

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IMO you can continue to give me your best guess as to when to expect completion of any of your masterpieces. I've picked up everything you've offered so far and am more than happy without exception. The anticipation is half the fun ... the waiting is comparatively easy ... it's you folks doing all the heavy lifting. Best of the New Year. :-jumpy Gary

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According to the photos, this will be a "wide-body" DC3 :-)What, four seats in a row instead of the usual three?Andreu

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Looking great. I am very discerning when it comes to add-ons, but this sort of stuff well and truly exceeds the grade.Just a couple of questions. How will the sounds compare to the default DC3? The defaults sound a bit too tinny, metallic and lacking in low frequency oompf on my setup. The other question is will you have any option to not install any of the virtual views including the cockpit?(I personally still prefer 2D views and 2D cockpit).

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I can tell you based on my experience with the original version that I have been flying since last summer that the sound is truly authentic. From what I have seen on the MAAMSim website, they have improved it yet again.

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Thanks, and a belated HNY to you, too.You betcha, we will have an FS2002 version of the new R4D. No promises for future packages - it takes a tremendous amount of work, especially by Rob, to support the old FS version. But because of the long delay of what was originally intended to be a FS2002 package, we feel we must include it in this case. We will produce the FS2004 version first, though. At this point, I'm loathe to delay the CD release further to put out both FS versions at once on the same disc. So we are giving priority to FS2004 and that is what will be on the initial release. The FS2002 version will follow on a second edition of the CD, and probably also in a payware download version, as will the FS9 bird, price yet to be determined.Speaking of price - the FS2004 CD, which will include three complete aircraft models in four liveries, the MAAM R4D-6 #50819 in both its original shiny metal and current painted silver liveries, UAL "City of San Franciso", and BEA's "Sir Eric Geddes" will sell for $30.00 and will be delivered anywhere in the world for $4.95. When the subsequent edition is issued, it will include both the FS2002 and FS2004 version and the price will be the same. The CD's will feature "how to" videos, extensive user's manual, original history article, and vintage manuals, among other goodies. As with the 'Briefing Time' CD, it will be stuffed with as much as we can get on it, so you will be getting your money's worth.Any download version will be the aircraft only, as with BT, and the price has yet to be determined. The download will not come out for some time after the CD, so the CD will be the way to go if you want to get the most for your money, get it ASAP, and make sure the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum gets all of the money. We really appreciate our outside contractors who handle the download business and boxed versions for us, but they have overheads of their own and must make a profit, so MAAM only gets a portion of those sales. If you buy the CD directly from our MAAM Online Store at www.maam.org, all of the proceeds go directly to the museum's restoration programs and you'll get the best deal on price and shipping, too.Thanks again to everybody who has been so patient and understanding about the long, detoured development process of the Gmax R4D. Bill RambowMAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, and Womackhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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Hi Jack,First, this is NOT an update. This is a completely new aircraft package from the ground up. But don't worry about FS2002. See the reply above.Since you opened the door, let me address a question I have received a few times already, and expect to get many more times once the Gmax R4D / DC-3 pacakge is released...Regretfully, we will not be able to give discounts to owners of the previous R4D package. OK, I admit, the regret will be mostly on the side of the buyers.;-) But the truth of the matter is that setting up a mechanism to verify registered ownership of the old R4D is beyond the means of an all-volunteer operation like MAAM-SIM. We do not charge for "upgrades", "patches", or "add-ons" to our products. Even the FS2004 Upgrade of 'Briefing Time' which involved a tremendous amount of work by the team was issued as a free download. Likewise, when improvements or fixes were made, to the old R4D, they were always free. I think our recent Freeware issue of Bill Womack's stunning KRDG/MAAM Scenery should amply prove we are not totally greedy, even on behalf of our non-profit cause, the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum. The Gmax R4D and DC-3 for FS2004 and FS2002 will be a new product, and everyone will have to pay full price if they want it. We won't apologize for that. We think we are giving good value for the money, and the money all goes to a worthy aviation history cause. That does not mean we don't appreciate our past customers, though. So we'll make it up to you by providing a steady stream of free enhancements and add-ons that will increase the value of your CD, far beyond any "loyalty" discount you might have gotten. If you like these gifts, and want to respond, please go to www.maam.org and drop a few tax-deductible bucks in one of the restoration funds, and accept our sincere thanks. The money is badly needed now, more than ever.Bill Rambow MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, and Womackhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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Did I say that? Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.;-)At the present time, no other panels are contemplated. The R4D panel and VC will serve for all three aircraft. That's a major project, after all. However, as my friend and loyal BTBT member Francois has reminded me, we do have access to the Dutch Dakota Association's DC-3's with one developer and two beta testers living in the vicinity of their hangars. Jan, especially, would dearly love to update the DDZ panel we did some years back, so never say never. ;-) Bill Rambow MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, Womack, and Hamblyhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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Hi Andreu,You have to remember that our R4D was a Naval transport, albeit an Admiral's personal one. Sailors were not accorded the luxury of the wider seats that the three seat civil versions usually had, nor were they allowed to be much overweight! ;-)Bill Rambow MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, and Womackhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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I agree about the default DC-3 sounds. Never fear, we'll give you a full-bodied P&W sound suite.Although Jan may not like it too much, being the VC creator, as the 2D panel and view designer I admire your attitude! ;-)Actually, I absolutely love the VC on both 'Briefing Time' and the R4D, but we probably will continue with the innovation we introduced with BT, giving users a choice of "full" and "light" versions. It's still under discussion, but things are pointing that way. We have already surveyed our BTBT (Briefing Time Beta Team), but I would be curious to know how many of you BT users regularly use either the Medium or Light versions.Bill Rambow MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, and Womackhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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Why thanks! We aim to please. It's as close to the real thing as we can make it, and quite a bit more so than the old version, especially on the copilot's panel and overhead electrical panel.Bill Rambow MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, Womack, and Hamblyhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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Thanks kindly, Gary. We all appreciate that sort of support and outlook very much.BTW, apropos of nothing, a co-worker just came in and said their was a "Gooney Bird" taxiing to parking here at Andrews AFB. Well, I jumped in the van and drove down the ramp to investigate. It was a Basler Turbo Conversion! The horror. The horror.;-)I went aboard this particular bird here a couple years ago and, except for the slant of the sparkling new diamond-plate cargo deck, there was almost nothing inside that resembled our beloved R4D or any other DC-3 I've seen. The cockpit was almost all glass, for Pete's sake!Bill Rambow MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, and Womackhttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/maamsim_logo.gif

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Hi Bill!I always use the "medium" Briefing Time. Be well!Jaap.

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>According to the photos, this will be a "wide-body" DC3 :-)>What, four seats in a row instead of the usual three?'usual' is a word you'd better be very carefull about using in conjuction with 'DC-3', Andrue.. usual four can be as much usual as usual three in this case :(http://www.airliners.net/open.file/098225/M/http://www.airliners.net/open.file/177292/M/http://www.airliners.net/open.file/185069/M/http://www.airliners.net/open.file/299888/M/You have a good point nontheless, atleast our UAL bird will feature a three seats config.best regards,Jan

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