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Triple treat today - 60" wide view of FS9 !

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Yes Howard, I do have the dreaded ;-) center bezel, dual spanned monitor setup that you speak of. Whilst the TH2GO three monitor setup is the ultimate in surround FS graphics, I'm still very happy with my dual monitor setup. Sure the runway is split by the center bezel in 2D, but I fly almost exlusively VC now with my TrackIR 4 and it only takes the slightest turn of the head to put enough of the runway on one screen or the other to not be bothered by it. Also, an advantage of dual monitor is that you can run wide screen LCDs at native res because TH2GO is not calling the resolution shots.If I had to relatively rate the multimonitor experience (I have used a few TH2GO setups before), I'd give the TH2GO a 10, dual widescreen monitor an 8, single widescreen a 4 and single 4:3 a 2!Gary

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Howard:I am delighted and relieved with Triplehead even with non matching LCD monitors of 24" and 20.1". I was sorely tempted to buy a second DELL 24" LCD because honestly it is fantastic and I thought that if I had two of them, the world would look even more gorgeous.In using TH2G, there is some significant compromise involved in dumbing down the res from 1920 to 1280. You lose the gorgeous crispness of the cockpit gauge fonts in the 24" LCD, but for me, hey, I chose this 'cos I wanted HUGE size and a feeling of total visual immersion most of all. And so I settle for somewhat less brilliantly crisp fonts as a result. It's a tradeoff like so many things in FS--and life !I am impressed how well the 24" LCD goes with the two smaller 20.1" LCDs. The smaller LCDs still do have beautifully crisp and sharp text even though they've been dumbed down to 1280 from 1600x1200. The vertical height of the 20.1" LCD panel is almost the same as that of the 24" widescreen so this is why they fit together pretty well with TH2G. So far, I am very pleased with this set-up and there's not much to complain about. Only thing is the panels are so huge that they have bumped off my GoFlight set up and I've now had to spend even more to buy a GF pedestal so I can stick all the GF stuff into it and have it on the floor and still use it !The things we do for FS....!JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Greetings JSCan you please tell me which 20.1 monitors you are using.I am considering using 3 20.1's and dumbing them down also. You say there is not much loss in crispness ?Best Andrew

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I just bought my 9th DELL monitor, this one the 2007FP (NOT the widescreen--careful, no "W" in the model name--the regular 4:3 display at 20.1"). I've spent well over $10K at DELL since 1996 and never been disappointed.Dumbing down to 1280x1024 with this and my other DELL 20.1" (an earlier model called the 2001FP, but with virtually identical display coloring to the newer 2007FP) looks very good in the sim generally with very good readability and clarity of cockpit gauge fonts in the PMDG 747-400 (my favorite add-on and the one I use most). The fonts of any type at this non-native res look less thrillingly crisp in FSNavigator, but I have adjusted the size and turned on bold and it looks slightly better. This new 2007FP is very good indeed. I am delighted with it. It came out the box in one piece and is fully adjustable through 3 axes (height, tilt, swivel). I'd read some mixed reviews (read about ten of 'em in total) and wasn't sure about it--including some folks who said the height adjustment mechanism sucked and the swivel was uselss--but so far I am very happy with it and it is well built and well finished. I've got it adjusted physically to the nearest half centimeter for FS with my other two LCD panels with Triplehead, so in my opinion, DELL wins again!JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

>>I just bought my 9th DELL monitor, this one the 2007FP (NOT>the widescreen--careful, no "W" in the model name--the regular>4:3 display at 20.1"). I've spent well over $10K at DELL>since 1996 and never been disappointed.>>Dumbing down to 1280x1024 with this and my other DELL 20.1">(an earlier model called the 2001FP, but with virtually>identical display coloring to the newer 2007FP) looks very>good in the sim generally with very good readability and>clarity of cockpit gauge fonts in the PMDG 747-400 (my>favorite add-on and the one I use most). The fonts of any>type at this non-native res look less thrillingly crisp in>FSNavigator, but I have adjusted the size and turned on bold>and it looks slightly better. >>This new 2007FP is very good indeed. I am delighted with it. >It came out the box in one piece and is fully adjustable>through 3 axes (height, tilt, swivel). I'd read some mixed>reviews (read about ten of 'em in total) and wasn't sure about>it--including some folks who said the height adjustment>mechanism sucked and the swivel was uselss--but so far I am>very happy with it and it is well built and well finished. >I've got it adjusted physically to the nearest half centimeter>for FS with my other two LCD panels with Triplehead, so in my>opinion, DELL wins again!>>JS>>>>JS,I am really interested in your setup.But I still don't understand how you have set it up from each monitors resolution?The tripple head puts out 3 X (1280x1024). Right?OK..so your left 20.1 and your right 20.1 LCD have this resolution and I know they would be proportional. (even though they are dumed down from its native resolution).But what about the center 24" LCD? What is its resolution? IS it also 1280x1024? Now, wouldnt that be stretched across the widescreen (distrortion of the outside view)?Also, Since I only have the 24", do you think I should go with another 24" or get the 2007 X 2 and go wit hthe triple2Go? My only issue is the center bezel.Manny

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Manny:I really cannot tell you what the res is per LCD panel, all I know is that TH2G tells me it's set the res for ALL 3 screens together at 3840x1024. It looks reasonably good on the 24" LCD and I imagine it probably IS 1280x1024 on that one. It IS slightly imperfect in terms of scaling but to me, I don't really give a fig. I like the huge size, the centering of the centerline in the 24" panel, the size of cockpit gauges, and the reasonable clarity of the cockpit gauge fonts. In addition, I've managed to line up the images uncommonly well despite having different size LCD panels. So, as part of an overall visual package, it is a pretty nice affair and I'd rate it as an A-minus. Purists would argue that it is imperfect and therefore not so great and I could see their point.I thought long and hard about getting a second 24" LCD and keeping my experimental Horizontal span with the nVidia card at 3840x1200. But I was anxious about the center post and bezel effect and concerned about having to use the hat switch to offset the cockpit view by 3 degrees every time I wanted to take off and land. Granted, the image on 2x24" at 3840x1200 would be just sensational, but I wanted the max possible visual real estate and I decided that I DID want a clear view of the centerline without bezel intrusion. So that's really why I got the TH2G and the third panel, the 20.1".All I can say, and I repeat, is that it is the closest thing to being there apart from the UNITED level D we used in Denver duirng AVSIM a coupla years ago. True, the outside world (ground, terrain, etc.) is also slightly imperfect in terms of texture clarity, but the sky is stupendous, the VC is amazing, the visual impact is breathtaking--so what's not to like ?! I am less into ground and ocean sea eye-candy than many others; for me, it's the sky and clouds, the light and dark effects, the departure runway, the arrival runway, the cockpit size and feel, the functionality of cockpit gauges and switches, the flight model, the general view ahead and outside, etc., these are the factors that count most for me. If there are imperfections in the scenery or in the rendering, if the display is 5% or 10% off in technical terms, or whatever, I can live with it.Tomorrow I am having a birthday gathering with several folks including three very good FS friends who are all sim and PC experts and engineers in their own right. I shall see what their views (literally!) are of this set-up and report their comments here.JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Greetings All,I have been following this thread with deep interest as I am trying very hard to decide which 3 monitors I will purchase.JS can you possibly post some pictores showing those 20.1's I would really like to see just how much they blur without them being run in native resolution.Happy birthday Andrew

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Andrew:I might be able to take a picture of them up close with my ancient (and beloved) KODAK camera but I've actually tried this before and they came out rather disappointignly with some blurring. You need a reasonably sophisticated camera to take a good close-up pic (and preferably without a flash to blind your own lens) and have something post-able. If you lived around here, you could drop in and visit to see for yourself (!)Thanks for your good wishes. The party starts at 3 pm today and will end with a fly-in to KIAD in the PMDG 744 with two bottles of champagne in the cockpit for the drivers (as part of the pre-flight check!)JSMcLean, VA 22101

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

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Well, it's 7.30 pm and I passed the FS view test with flying colors this afternoon. My three FS colleagues really enjoyed the panels and none of them had any issue at all with the non-matching center 24" widescreen LCD in particular. In fact they agreed that it was worth having a specially wide screen for a huge field of view in the center. Just wanted to pass this on.JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Great news! Hope your BD party was great.BTW thanks for the invite.I am up in NE Pa. about 450 miles from Richmond. I did order up some new screens todat after a lot of searching reviews. I setteled on Samsung 970P's.They are currently selling for half of what they sold for a year ago.Should see them in a wk.Thanks JSBest regardsAndrew:-wave

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Good choice; Samsung screens are generally excellent and a good deal on them is worth snapping up. I am sure they will perform very well for you.Thanks again and Cheers!JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Greetings J. S. and others!Jonathon, your enthusiasm is quite contagious to say the least!!!As I understand it the TH2GO is really for VC flying and not much good for 2D panels without significant file alteration (which I'm not interested in).My question, however, is what about video recording using various programs like FRAPS, Matthias Nuesinger's recorder and the *in game* recorder?? I would not be at all interested in a multiple display setup that would preclude video making ---- or at least make it too difficult. I think I would go with 3x19 or 20" screens based on Howard's pictures and Gary's ratings above. But, as I say, video recording must work just as well as with a single screen before I take the plunge.Scott

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Scott:I must apologize here in advance and say that I know nothing about video recording. I only save flights (I have 500+ saved situations) but have never made an FS video, perhaps surprisingly (!)Anybody else carry this one...?JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

I think FRAPS goes up to 2560 x 1600 but you can always temporarily reduce TH2GO resolution if you want to record. I've not tried it. I'm waiting for a 'bigger' version of FRAPS as well - take a look at the web site.

Regards

 

Howard

 

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Gents ----- Thanks for the replies. I checked out the FRAPS web site and I a recent version which looks like it will do the job. Now I have to decide if I want to live with the VC. I've been partial to the 2D environment because of the clarity. I tried TrackIR a couple years ago and didn't like it. Guess it's much improved though. Decisions!Scott

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