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I'm looking to buy my first plane for fs9. I'd like a good single engine prop, faster than a Cessna 172, with good looking interiors and exteriors, good flight mechanics, and won't break the bank.Suggestions?Thanks

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Not quite what you are looking for but the price is right! :9 Go to the avsim library and get Milton Shupe's Aero Commander; it's free! While being a twin I think it's what you may be looking for. Flying mostly heavies I never use a VC, EXCEPT for this plane in which I use the VC exclusively. The flight model is fantastic, can cruise at about 180 kts, non-prssurized so you have to stay at the low altitudes. Being an Aero Commander you can get into and out of almost any airport. You'll have to learn to manage props and mixture, but it just adds to the fun. When I want to fly GA on short trips, it's the only plane I use. Quite frankly, I compare all the payware planes I buy to this plane, and most don't stand up. Mike

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Carenado makes some of the best looking single engine GA aircraft around. Their aircraft textures are very good. The Cessna 206 is an award winner. I have not seen better animated pilots than theirs.

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Indeed, my vote would go on a Carenado offering, either the 206 (for the sheer fun and diversity of a rough and ready workhorse that also makes a fantastic speedy tourer!), or the 182 (sleek and fun!).But I also have the Safir (wonderful!), and the SF.260 (great, but not as easy to handle as the Carenado Cessna's) - and they are fantastic aircraft too!Regards,Al.

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I echo the Carenado Cessna 206 recommendation. I love a plane that works for a living! Besides,(at least on my system) it is easy on the framerates. It looks great, flies well, and has all the equipment you need for instrument flying. Lately it is the plane to which I keep returning.

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Thanks for your recommendations so far. These planes all look great. One other thing I should have mentioned is IFR. I was surprised at the lack of navaids on these beautiful planes. I'm pretty unschooled, so I assume that's part of the realism. I'd at least like to be able to fly VOR.I'd looked at Carenedo's site and really liked the Cessna 182 Skylane II RG. Any reason many of you are recommending the 206 over it?Thanks for the input so far and keep it coming!

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Flight1 Commander 112ASibwings Saab SafirDreamfleet Bonanza A36Aerosoft DA Diamond Katana (only slightly faster but what a beauty)RealAir Siai Marchetti SF260Carenado Cessna 182RGMilton Shupe's SpartanLionheart's Bellanca Viking or EADS SocataAll are excellent examples of modern FS single engine aircraft that are expertly modeled inside and out, have realistic night lighting, won't break the bank (especially Shupe's Spartan). If you are an AOPA member you have access to last year's AOPA Sweepstakes Piper Cherokee Six and 2005's sweepstakes Commander 112A (a simpler version of their payware version) which Flight1 made for AOPA members. There are also several very fine examples of single engine aircraft made in Russia that are freeware that are worth having on your computer.

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d-mann 777They all have the Nav-aids. You can shoot an ILS approach when you learn how to do it. If you're talking about "flight into known icing conditions", then that's something else in IFR flying. I think the rubber boot on the horizontal stab is for abrasion purposes only, I don't think it's an anti-icing boot. The GPS has spoiled us with respect to VOR to VOR flying. You can flight plan VOR to VOR and not worry about Freqs.#2I think one of the prettiest things to behold is an airplane on pontoons. That's why I like the C206. As Bob said it's a working airplane in which you can swap out the back seats for cargo by clicking on the right hand seat.

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You can't go wrong with anything Dreamfleet or Realair. Dreamfleet is going to be releasing their Archer III soon (hopefully very soon). You might want to wait and check that out.

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I have to say that the Carenado 182 is my favourite. I have got all the others but the sounds on the '182' are the best. A very close second is the Flight One 172 Skyhawk.

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In answer to the question 182 VS 206 I think the 206 Stationair is just a better model and is also a great utility aircraft that will go almost anywhere. It's also has floats or skis for water or winter. For me the 182 is just too similar to the 172 to get my first choice vote although it's a nice plane. I think the 206 is Carenado's best work but all their stuff is great.I also second the Dreamfleet A36 Bonanza, it's been my default aircraft for a couple months now, but again the Carenado Bonanzas are real nice too but the Dreamfleet A36 is really a step up.Most people think "corny" on first impressions of the Real Air Scout pack but the Scout always delivers for me with great realism and extreme high quality and wonderful flying qualities. Excellent value IMO.Can't say enought about the Aerosoft Piper Super Cub either and dirt cheap at ten dollars. The Avsim review say this about the Super Cub.""...Overall, this package is a great value. For your money, you get nine models, well over a dozen textures, and hours of fun exploring the back country in FS. Although this product lacks the complexity of some other add-ons, it is a great addition to the library of anyone who enjoys classic airplanes, bush planes, or just wants something fun to buzz around in. " There are just so many great choices it's hard to decide. How about a Super Piper Cub AND the Dreamfleet Bonanza A36 for a total of about $35 US.......or a nice twin like the Cessna 310 from Flight 1.

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I'd like to include the Beech Baron 58-TC version. It's the Turbo-charged version, which maintains MSL pressure from 0' to 20,000' without stressing the engine. A very nice plane for all purposes, range, cruise speed, and flight charteristics.Part of the secret of success in life is to eat what you like -M.Twain

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>The GPS has spoiled us with respect to VOR to VOR flying. You>can flight plan VOR to VOR and not worry about Freqs.>Good! Zigzagging VOR flight is a waste of fuel anyway!And had Amelia and Fred, had GPS, they'd have nailed that little island way out in the middle of the Pacific, within three feet! That's if they "didn't" survive, of course... :D L.Adamson

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Dreamfleet Bonanza or RealAir Marchetti.www.dreamfleet2000.comwww.realairsimulations.comBoth meet your criteria and will put a smile on your face.

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I just wanted to thank you all for your suggestions. I found many of them to be very tempting and probable future purchases. I decided finally, after reading many Avsim reviews and viewing countless screenshots, to go with Carenado's Cessna 182 Skylane II RG. It just seemed to be the best combination of features and eye candy for the price.I'm very happy with my purchase. Being a casual simmer off and on for many years (starting with Flight Simulator 2 by Sublogic for the Commodore 64, circa 1984) flying mainly the stock 172, there are some things I need to adjust to. For example, I'm still trying to figure out the prop RPM control. Is it like a clutch for the prop to get the engine RPM's up or a variable-pitch prop? If anyone has any advice, it would be appreciated. I'd like to fully understand this plane and start cranking up the reality controls in fs9 to get a better understanding of "real" flight.My only knocks against this plane would echo Zane Gard's review. Mainly, there's no ALT hold for the autopilot, but that's manageable. And the status of the buttons on the AP is hard to determine. Otherwise, a very good purchase.Thanks again for all your advice,Dennis

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>And had Amelia and Fred, had GPS, they'd have nailed that>little island way out in the middle of the Pacific, within>three feet! >>That's if they "didn't" survive, of course... :D >>L.AdamsonLarryAt the risk of getting this thread high-jacked to "Hanger Chat", finding the little island was only part of the equation. Pan Am and Fred Noonan pioneered "Flight Control" and the use of the "Howgozit" graph. This wasn't generally known at the time (1937) until WWII came along and Pan Am had to share their little trade secrets with military navigators.Pan Am Navigators not only had to find their destinations using celestial navigation but they couldn't let the airplane run out of gas over open water because of un-forecast winds aloft. "Flight Control" and "Howgozit" graphs allowed navigators to measure fuel consumption and position in real time. This allowed the navigator to plot a PNR (point of no return) which floated with respect to winds aloft. Noonan had calculated, after 2000 + miles, that they could look for Howland island for about 45 minutes before going to plan "B". Plan "B" was to head back to the Gilbert island chain and "look for a nice beach" (AE to Vidal). Because they were lost in daylight hours and not able to get a celestial fix, they ended up in the Marshall island chain. The "survived" part was, Amelia was ok but Fred had head injuries that were treated by Amaran Bilimon (sp?).

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Freeware:Aero Commander by Milton Shupe (mentioned earlier)Payware:Flight1/Dreamfleet Baron 58 (!!)This might be OT, but I really would like to have a high quality C185, freeware or payware (Any chance, Carenado???). There are no 185 releases since FS2000!

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I recall that someone has sent 3 views of the C185 to Carenado, and there are a few of us hoping that they will make it one of their future products.

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Dennis, happy you like the 182 !Most FS autopilots will repond to the key command CTL-z for altitude hold, along with CTL-h for heading and CTL-n for NAV hold. I just tried it on the 182 and it works.If you ever get tired of the stock Carenado 182, you can jazz it up with fancier avionics (Garmin GPS, high resolution gauges etc from Reality-XP).. so there is future growth in this purchase !See attached picture.. : - )http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/167724.jpg

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Re RPM control... I believe this is a contant speed prop (variable pitch), with RPM adjustable by the pilot. Typically used with fine pitch (high RPM) for best take-off performance and lower RPM (coarser pitch) for better cruise economy and less noise. Like a car that starts up in first gear and shifts to higher gears at highway speeds.

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Dude, the best GA aircraft i ever bought was Dreamfleet's Beecg Bonanza A36. Good luck and i hope u get the right one.www.dreamfleet2000.comDaniel Johnson

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Nice topic man....I took some advice givin and purchased the Dreamfleet A36.......WOW what a plane if you're looking for somthing sexy,fun to fly and just getting back to the fun of GA flying this is the bird....a little tricky to get installed and set up but well worth it.Ruben RomeroFSX - The day the music died:(

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I will hazard to guess that this thread and other similar ones bring in a nice sudden rush of business for people like Dreamfleet etc. that build such beautiful aircraft that include value.I hate to think what the FDS, Feel There, Captain Sims etc. threads are doing for them however but hey, who ever said life was a cakewalkIt's marvelous what the Internet has done for us consumers as far as being able to get instant first hand information "before" we buy.

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