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Project Tupolev Tu-154M released!!!!

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Just a small little message in their forum but the addon is great!Go get it:http://www.fs-proteam.com/products.html?op=one&id=16&pw_patt=cataloghttp://www.fs-proteam.com/files/screen_shots/VC8_1000.jpgRob "Holland&Holland" de Vries http://kewlceo.com/forums/style_emoticons/...crazy_pilot.gif"To go up, pull the stick back. To go down, pull the stick back harder"

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Thanks for the heads up.With this aircraft and 9 Dragons I think 2008 may just be one of the best years ever for freeware.:-)

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That is so true! :-cool I've been waiting for the bird soooo long. Time to repeat my Russian...Best regards,Rafal

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>Well, that lasted all of 30 minutes. Frame rate killer ->12fps. Ouch.The no-VC version gives frames that are not much lower than whatever you get from default planes. The VC takes a few and you can expect some drop when the FE panel is on, but by no means a "killer" of any sort.However, a few users had similar issues with the betahttp://www.protu-154.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8274The problem was resolved by reinstalling FS.

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I have just:1. Downloaded aircraft.2. Installed aircraft3. UNINSTALLED aircraft.It seems to be a very complex aircraft, but unless you read Russian, it's useless. jerrycwo4

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>I have just:>1. Downloaded aircraft.>2. Installed aircraft>3. UNINSTALLED aircraft.>>It seems to be a very complex aircraft, but unless you read>Russian, it's useless. >jerrycwo4Indeed if you too lazy to even read the excellent english manual you better stick to your Boeings..Rob "Holland&Holland" de Vries http://kewlceo.com/forums/style_emoticons/...crazy_pilot.gif"To go up, pull the stick back. To go down, pull the stick back harder"

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>> but unless you read Russian, it's useless. There's an english manual, you'll learn about everything in english. You'll memorize all switches and buttons with their functionality, not their label, at least that's my experience.Believe me, I have written the manual and I don't speak Russian at all :-)Mike

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I'm certainly not reinstalling FS, it'll take far too long. For some reason, it gives me shocking fps, whereas the rest of my add-ons give me fabulous frame rates (steady 35fps, locked at 36). Anyway, I was really just curious, the screenshots look fabulous. From what I saw (in the slideshow!), the VC and the 2D cockpits are amazing and the external model looks great - it's definitely a cracking add-on and I recommend everyone to give it a go.

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>I have just:>1. Downloaded aircraft.>2. Installed aircraft>3. UNINSTALLED aircraft.>>It seems to be a very complex aircraft, but unless you read>Russian, it's useless. >jerrycwo4It's unfair to say that this plane is useless, it's one of the best FS addons ever. Yes, it'll take a lot of work and study to get it going, but a knowledge of Russian is not at all necessary. The English language version of the manual included with the package is quite comprehensible to English speakers. A 'Bart Simpson' type of approach, ie installed, couldn't start engines, got bored, will get you nowhere. I can read Russian (which isn't at all difficult) so will admit that this makes things a little easier, but don't be put off by a few Cyrillic letters.This aircraft does, however, sort the men from the boys and I wouldn't recommend it if you're just used to flying simple default aircraft or don't like learning to master complex addons. Prehaps that would be a fairer comment?

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How does this aircraft compare with something along the lines of a payware Level-D 767, Flight1 ATR72, Maddog MD-82 2006, PMDG 747? I've never tried a complex freeware aircraft before and I'm curious.

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After getting it started by the book (english manual) and doing a couple of bumps my first impression is very favourable. Especially the complicated systems are simulated well. Flight model seems accurate, ground-handling is very good, exterior model also, VC is simply stunning from atmosphere. So IMO it is right up there with the big payware boys!

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It's as good as one of the top quality payware aircraft. It's just different because it's Russian. In a way it's like comparing a Boeing and Airbus in terms of how you program an FMC, set up the autopilot, etc. If you think Boeing and Airbus are different, this plane will really surprise you. But that's what I like about these Russian aircraft - something totally different to learn. Easy it isn't, but it's certainly satisfying when you complete your first circuit :-)It's not for everyone though and I don't recommend it if you aren't prepared to read and re-read the manual (which is in English) and take your time learning. I'm off to try an figure out the navigation now - which really is something different :-)

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>How does this aircraft compare with something along the lines>of a payware Level-D 767, Flight1 ATR72, Maddog MD-82 2006,>PMDG 747? I've never tried a complex freeware aircraft before>and I'm curious.A better comparison, IMO would be to the DF727.I would say that in most categories it's one step ahead of the (wonderful) 727 but that may be a subjective assessment.What's undoubtful, is that it's most certainly up there with the big boys and as people mentioned - there's a learning curve.Simply flipping up the switches and pressing some "start" button won't do, the english manual is 260 pages long for a reason.... btw, AFAIK today or tomorrow a Czech version of the panel along with a soundset is due to be released.

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Cool I think I will check it out. The simplicity of most of the aircraft out there bores me so something new will be nice, and I like them as technical and realistic as possible. I noticed that the 154M has a KLN-90B - that should feel right at home since I have used those in real life :D

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The gulf widens! :-hah Thankyou Project Tupolev! :-beerchughttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/ede...t100/ohyeah.jpg

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Beautifully done.Excellent flight dynamics. Ultra-smooth VC instruments. Great frame rates. Comprehensive systems simulation. Very realistic wing flex in turbulence. Animated crew figures (zoom in on cockpit in Spot view).Wide screen panel BMPs will be available soon. etc. etc.Project Tupolev have really outdone themselves with this one.

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ED, who's got access to a printer at work eh? hehehe, nice one Ed ;)Can you do me one please?

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I knew that I'd take a little "heat" from my entry but I wrote it anyway as it is just MY opinion, and no one elses. I said it was a very complex aircraft and I couldn't memorize all of the Russian on those gauges in 20 years. Sorry if I ruffeled your feathers, I didn't mean to insult anyone. As for me, I'm sticking with my Level-D 767. I hope you guys enjoy your new aircraft as I know it took a lot of work to put it out. jerrycwo4:-)

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