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I'm a member of Delta Virtual Airlines and started a thread on their forum regarding the demise of the FS team. Here is a link to the forum post:http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x1268a**************************************************The more people that contact Microsoft telling them "WE" want our Microsoft Flight Simulator the better the chances are it'll be brought back. Pass this contact info on to as many forums as possible!!Yes, this may be a long shot, but let us NOT just sit here, let us try and do something about it!https://support.microsoft.com/contactus/ema...08&ws=mscom Michael A. BrownAnaheim, CAUSA

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Hi,So the Help and Support folks are going to convince the bean counters that we want our FS back?

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Hi,So the Help and Support folks are going to convince the bean counters that we want our FS back?
If you have a better idea than feel free to post ... like I said, it is a long shot, but if enough noise is made the powers that be will notice.Mike Brown

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I have a better idea. Face the reality of the situation.2.2 Million people lost their jobs last year in the U.S. The US is in the worse recession since WW II and arguably teetering on the brink of a depression. All of our major banks are on the verge of collapse. Our automotive industry is on the verge of collapse. Our 401ks are worth at least 25% less than it was a year ago. Foreclosures are so bad that in some communities 1 in 10 homes are in some state of foreclosure and this year millions will lose their homes. Today, Microsoft reluctantly announced 5,000 layoffs. Tonight you are sending a petition to customer service to ask them to continue making a game that in no way will help Microsoft weather this finanical storm...which is why they cut Aces in the first place. Not to be mean, but isn't your petition sought of like being on the Titanic and yelling at the bartender because he ran out of your favorite wine at the exact moment that the ship hits the iceberg? I dunno, but is it possible that MS might have other priorities right now? Just a thought to put it in perspective. I'm sad at the news too. But I think that Petitions to Microsoft's Customer Service department will be as useful as a submarine with a screen door.Mike T.

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Hi,How about this: sit back for 6 months and wait and see what happens instead of purely emotional, knee-jerk, reactions?FS9 is still here.FSX is still here.FSX11 was still 2 years away, even before this announcement.

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Yep, best to wait and see what happens naturally. FS is a profitable title for MS, and I doubt they'll just let it die. Regardless, as long as there are third parties making FS add-ons, the hobby will continue. I've spent $600 in the last 12 months on add-ons for FS9, a five-year-old program, and there's much more still available (don't tell the wife). And I used to be active in the Falcon 4 community, which is still carrying on 10 years after the original game was released. This is sad news for the folks who've lost their jobs, and that's all too common these days (trust me - I work in the financial services sector).

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What happens after 6 months.JimCYWG
What happens after 6 months? The severs at Microsoft, that provide Real world weather for FlightSim, will be turned off. :(RJ

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What did the Help and Support Division do with your email? They filed it with the others, in the round file cabinet or in their folder called Recycled.

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I'm in no rush for the next one. I still haven't even migrated to FSX and am still buying add-ons for FS9. As I've seen in news blips, they've only canned the development team, but still are holding on to their titles and support of them. If you're worried about the MS weather servers closing (which I doubt they will quite yet), I'd look into one of the weather add-ons such as Active Sky.

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I'm in no rush for the next one. I still haven't even migrated to FSX and am still buying add-ons for FS9. As I've seen in news blips, they've only canned the development team, but still are holding on to their titles and support of them. If you're worried about the MS weather servers closing (which I doubt they will quite yet), I'd look into one of the weather add-ons such as Active Sky.
I'll have to consider Active Sky. ThanksRJ

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What happens after 6 months.JimCYWG
The dust will settle a bit and the picture will be a lot clearer.

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What did the Help and Support Division do with your email? They filed it with the others, in the round file cabinet or in their folder called Recycled.
Perhaps we could dispense with the disparaging comments.

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Perhaps we could dispense with the disparaging comments.
Agreed,,, It's not the time nor place for a "Commercial Member" to make such negative comments.RJ

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I am equally saddened to see the turn of events and the firing of most of the ACES team, but this is the reality of the world we live in and have to accept the fact.Maybe.......and this is purely hypothetical.......it may be an opportunity for all the major Add-on developers and big players to pool in their resources and give us an absolutely new FS platform. With all their experience and know how gleaned over the years to tweak and go beyond the boxed capabilities of FS9 or FSX, I am sure this could mark the beginning of a new era. Just a thought.Dinshaw.

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I have a better idea. Face the reality of the situation.2.2 Million people lost their jobs last year in the U.S. The US is in the worse recession since WW II and arguably teetering on the brink of a depression. All of our major banks are on the verge of collapse. Our automotive industry is on the verge of collapse. Our 401ks are worth at least 25% less than it was a year ago. Foreclosures are so bad that in some communities 1 in 10 homes are in some state of foreclosure and this year millions will lose their homes. Today, Microsoft reluctantly announced 5,000 layoffs. Tonight you are sending a petition to customer service to ask them to continue making a game that in no way will help Microsoft weather this finanical storm...which is why they cut Aces in the first place. Not to be mean, but isn't your petition sought of like being on the Titanic and yelling at the bartender because he ran out of your favorite wine at the exact moment that the ship hits the iceberg? I dunno, but is it possible that MS might have other priorities right now? Just a thought to put it in perspective. I'm sad at the news too. But I think that Petitions to Microsoft's Customer Service department will be as useful as a submarine with a screen door.Mike T.
You along with Barack Hussein Obama, Mark Faber , Stephen Roach and Warren Buffett seem to be the only people in the US who can see the absolute disaster descending upon the USA ,UK and to varying degrees to the rest of the world.I have a long time mate who works at the highest level in Finance in Honkers (HKG).He made a comment recently over a few sherbets that he had heard a rumour that M$ was shifting FS to China or India.Tas

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Come on, as J S Korna says, we have FS9 and FSX. These two can serve our flightsimming needs for many years to come, whether there is the prospect of another iteration MSFS or not. In fact I'd go as far as to say, that the prospect of a settled period wothout such an iteration will enable third party developers to concentrate on developing excellent products without having to look over their shoulders at a new version on the horizon which might require a recoding of their existing products. I for one am still enjoying FS9 and haven't even got FSX yet. Finally, maybe the absence of an MSFS might encourage the development of a new flight simulator which might even top FSX.

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Maybe.......and this is purely hypothetical.......it may be an opportunity for all the major Add-on developers and big players to pool in their resources and give us an absolutely new FS platform. With all their experience and know how gleaned over the years to tweak and go beyond the boxed capabilities of FS9 or FSX, I am sure this could mark the beginning of a new era. Just a thought.Dinshaw.
Can you imagine?That would be the most ridiculously amazing sim.In the mean time I think if we just wait it out then MS will bring it back.As someone else stated the sim wasn't epected to be released in the next two years so it really does not matter at the momentRichy

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They haven't thrown away the code - it has been archived.That means it will be ready to be unarchived and forge ahead when economic times improve.Get back to flying FS9/FSX and enjoy. The incremental improvements to hardware will not stall completely and think how a standard PC in 12-24 months time will drive what we have and the add-ons to come.Aybe

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I still think it is a good idea to sign the petition no matter where it goes. Probably strait to the trash folder. At least I can say I signed it and tried. It's like voting in an election. Wasn't the Florida vote a few years ago won by only a few votes. Sorry people this probably won't but with a slim chance may make a difference but probably not. If that make any sense.]JimCYWG

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Hi all,I do not see how it can hurt, I sent in commentBob

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You along with Barack Hussein Obama, Mark Faber , Stephen Roach and WarrenBuffett seem to be the only people in the US who can see the absolute disaster descending upon the USA ,UK and to varying degrees to the rest of the world.I have a long time mate who works at the highest level in Finance in Honkers (HKG).He made a comment recently over a few sherbets that he had heard a rumour that M$ was shifting FS to China or India.Tas
These rumors, alongwith the recent ones about MS not willing to give MSFS codes away, may be the '1+1' equation tracing the future of the FS platform.If they were planning to collect further money from their move, and to definitively leave the FS franchise, they would have put codes on sale too.Since they don't and they won't, I must assume they have plans about that (although this may even mean they plan to move that to consoles.....)Anyway, although their PR statements may actually sound as pure 'face washing', they NEVER said the FS saga has come to its definitive end.

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I have a better idea. Face the reality of the situation.2.2 Million people lost their jobs last year in the U.S. The US is in the worse recession since WW II and arguably teetering on the brink of a depression. All of our major banks are on the verge of collapse. Our automotive industry is on the verge of collapse. Our 401ks are worth at least 25% less than it was a year ago. Foreclosures are so bad that in some communities 1 in 10 homes are in some state of foreclosure and this year millions will lose their homes. Today, Microsoft reluctantly announced 5,000 layoffs.
Negative, Carter's administration was worse than today.

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