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Black/disappearing textures? Some bizarre news ...

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But, DX10 is not supported in XP (of any flavor) - only Vista and up support DX10 (w/ of, course, a DX10 capable graphics card). I mean, I can quote the ACES developers on this one: http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archive/2007...isnt-in-xp.aspx Which is an article from none other than Phil Taylor (project leader at ACES for sp1, sp2 and Acceleration) titled - "Why DX10 wasnt created on XP and why it isnt in XP".Soooo...how are y'all pulling that off, having both XP and DX10 Preview?Thanks
Not sure why anyone would want to run DX10 Preview. It runs ok for some, but a very small some at that. It is quite broken for many of us. I have tried it when using Vist64 and IMO, it's junk, but as I said, a small few say it's ok. Having DX10 makes 0 difference when running FSX, none, nada. Only if you want to try out the DX10 Preview, which most will say it's crap. If you run in XP64 compatability mode and run DX10 Preview, I don't know why it wouldn't work since regardless of compat mode, you still have the available .dll's it will be looking for.
How about this:
No, it is a stand alone .exe as I explained above. I have it, and it will not work and most likely never will in full screen mode for FSX. In fact, it was Fermin Fernandez (FS Widgets Developer) that explained a lot of things to me on how FSX and the DX window operate. I sent him some ideas as possible workarounds, but doubt they will help. There is another long thread on this subject somewhere titled something like "What a great addon" by Leffe that has better reading on the matter.

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Thanks for all your help Dan you have answered a lot of questions and have saved me some headaches going down this road.

Not sure why anyone would want to run DX10 Preview. It runs ok for some, but a very small some at that. It is quite broken for many of us. I have tried it when using Vist64 and IMO, it's junk, but as I said, a small few say it's ok. Having DX10 makes 0 difference when running FSX, none, nada. Only if you want to try out the DX10 Preview, which most will say it's crap. If you run in XP64 compatability mode and run DX10 Preview, I don't know why it wouldn't work since regardless of compat mode, you still have the available .dll's it will be looking for.No, it is a stand alone .exe as I explained above. I have it, and it will not work and most likely never will in full screen mode for FSX because what I explained above. In fact, it was Fermin Fernandez (FS Widgets Developer) that explained a lot of things to me on how FSX and the DX window operate. I sent him some ideas as possible workarounds, but doubt they would help. There is another long thread on this subject somewhere titled something like "What a great addon" by Leffe that has better reading on the matter.
Again, I have to respectfully disagree on the DX10 Preview issue - it gets me 20% improved frame rates while keeping quality maxed. I'm sorry you can't get it to work for you - every setup is different, I'm sure, but using the exact setup below (in parenthesis) it absolutely flys.As to DX10 in XP - um, it does not work - it is not there and cannot be 'emulated' (.dll's don't have anything to do with it - Direct3D does not work that way - the' framework' is either there or not. With XP, the Direct3D framework is DX9 and backward. With Vista, it's DX10 and backward. With Win 7 it's (eventually!) DX11 and backward) When I run XP and FSX, in fact, the DX10 Preview is not even on the menu (by design).Lotsa great stuff and help, Turbine, but the DX10 stuff is just flat-out inaccurate, I'm sorry. Again, I humbly refer folks to the designers of FSX and much of DX10 - Phil Taylor and Co. of the former ACES (Phil's now with Intel "corraling", as he says, their Larrabee program), using the link http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/ (By the way, Phil's blog is still very much "alive", even though ACES sadly isn't, and there is a wealth of authorative tweaks and information from the folks who "wrote the program" - literally. You can follow the whole history of FSX from sp1 to sp2 and Acceleration from the men and women who wrote it. It's really a must for anyone who wants an authorative look at why things are as they are in FSX). OK, off my soapbox!Happy flying!Cheers!(My setup: homebuilt Core i7-920 OC to 3.2Ghz, 6GB RAM, DFI Lan Party Jr. microATX motherboard, Vista Ultimate 64, WD Black FALS 1TB HDD, BFI GTS 250 O/C 1GB video, recycled SB XFi Extreme Music from old computer, recycled ViewSonic 22" 1680x1050 LCD, recycled gateway wireless keyboard from yet another old computer, recycled Logitech wireless mouse (from MX620 pair? I forget!), old Compaq case from previous computer sans bezel...)
I ve been following this thread almost a year now - since I did the upgrade to a better video card (GTX280) and sound card and the "Black Screen/Corrupted Grapics" came home....Since then I changed:* the OS from Vista x64 to Windows 7x64* the Motherboard to the latest state-of-the-art masterpiece by Gigabyte* the CPU to i7* the cooling (to liquid)* the HDD to SSD* the nVidia driver* the Alchemy* the memory to DDR3 + adding additional 4 GBThe result was - same....Sadly I realised that no matter what I change in the hardware and software outside FSX, after I load the FSX with all the add-ons that worth to be there the Black screens show up. There is a little bugger hidden in there, so little noone can see it. One solution was mentioned above - I just learned not to go in the menus anymore. Just print all the charts needed for the route, check all the weather before flight is loaded, go in and fly.... and hope the antivirus will not splash the "update complete" window in the middle of the take off run and ruin the day.I am not satisfied with that. I will not give up testing. Until the real cause is tracked down and taken care of.
SkyPirate,Yes, yes and yes! No "going to menus" = no problems. Why that is, I haven't a clue, but it does indeed solve the porblem.Cheers!

Patrick, where in my post did you see me say DX10 could be emulated in XP? I would recommend you reread what I said, and think you got that confused with running in Vista with Compatability mode set to XP compatibility.As for the rest of your statement, I didn't mean to offend if that's what I did. I stated the fact that it works for some and not others. I am very aware of the link you provided and having spent much time trying to "tweak" it doesn't work for me. I don't know why it works for some and not others, the only thing I can think of is driver related at this point.As always with any post, it is my own opinion, and am greatful to read yours. Reading other opinions often makes me have another go on something rather than be close minded about things.BTW, love the soap box comment :(

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Dan Prunier

No, no offense taken at all - and I just added the emulation bit to butress the argument about DX10, nothing more (as some unscrupulous software vendors have tried to sell us simmers a progam that will "Make DX10 work on XP!" Which is complete BS) I just wanted to cover all bases with any readers of the post.Thanks very much for your feedback.Cheers!

This is an interesting thread about "fixing" DX10 preview in FSX:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=267998&st=0If we can run DX10 preview and not have the texture/black screen issue that would be awesome. The main reason why I was NOT using the DX10 Preview was because of the flickering taxi/runways.

Alright - speaking of DX10Just tried the same flight which "Blackscreened" an hour ago - KBOS (Fly Tampa) to CYYZ, ASA weather online, this time with DX10 preview enabled. I did a little changes on the REX2 textures as well to make them DX10 ready.Well, nice surprise - everything looked brilliant (especially the water looks amazing). I wonder why it took me so long to come to this idea.............. The last time I tried DX10 and it was very disappointing was 2 years ago on a Vista mediocre machine.... Now my hardware power is much higher.100 times Alt-Ent + menu switching gave me stable picture throughout the flight. Interesting note: few times when going back to the FSX screen the graphics appeared corrupted and a moment later everything renders normally. At the same time another annoying problem with the sound crackling disappeared. One shot - Two rabbits. :( The only strange artifact was that the nav lights were missing when looking at the aircraft at certain angle (direction of the sun)Guys, I will take this preview for more testing to see how it is going but I would recommend everyone with the "Blackscreen" problem to try the DX10 (supposedly you run Vista or W7 and your hardware is DX10 ready)

The main reason why I was NOT using the DX10 Preview was because of the flickering taxi/runways.
Me too - some time ago on the old system with the Vista. Just tonight I tried the DX10 again with REX2 textures pack and everything looked excellent...... Fingers crossed

 

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Martin Martinov / VATSIM 1207931

I have REX2 also, I haven't tried DX10 Preview yet. Cant wait to see if I get the same results.

It has been known for a very long time now that DirectX 10 elimnates the problem. Many people do not want to use this although, because they can't (XP or DX9 card), hate the variable performance, like to control AA and other graphical settings themselves, and/or are extremely annoyed with the bugs such as lights not showing up (on default planes :() and flickering taxiways. Other than that, its a pretty good solution :(John U.

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gman!

"Impossible things are simply those which so far have never been done." - Elbert Hubbard

I got to get in briefly to check out KSEA - I taxied all over the place with no flickering no texture/black screen issues, also using menu, alt tab, alt enter, with DX10 + REX2 so far so good.

After further testing I did get some flickering at other airports. I will have to try different textures using REX2 for taxi/runways to resolve the problem and if that doesnt work I will begin selected most used airport fixes found in this thread http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=267998&st=0I can deal with these issues found the DX10 preview if it solves the texture/black screen issue using these highly detailed aircraft.Also, I wonder if the A2A 3D Lights for the default aircraft have an effect when using DX10 preview?

Here is the thing - DX10 solves the problem with the "black screens" COMPLETELY.But for me opened a Pandora box of other small pains, so I will revert back to DX9 for the moment...Here is a short list:* Rain / Snow issue (FIXED)* Flickering runway/taxiways (CAN BE FIXED - long and painful process)* Missing NAV lights at certain angles* Can't figure the Anti Aliasting settings and at moments the picture looks worse than DX9* Not compatible with many of my add on airport* Strange artifacts at dusk, dawn, night* Strange water color around the coral reefsGuys if you know how to fix things from that list any support will be much appretiated

 

Regards,

Martin Martinov / VATSIM 1207931

Like I said before

It has been known for a very long time now that DirectX 10 eliminates the problem (If I recall someone found it near the beginning of this thread) Many people do not want to use DX10 though, because they can't (DX9 card), hate the variable performance, like to control AA (Anti-Aliasing) and other graphical settings themselves, and/or are extremely annoyed with the bugs such as lights not showing up (on default planes :() and flickering taxiways. Other than that, its a pretty good solution :(John U.
My Solution: http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?s=&...t&p=1692080http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...9782&st=275I have been using this and never have to worry about these problems every again. There is no need to spend countless hours trying to find other ways to remedy the problem if this works for you. Also this is a software problem so no hardware will ever fix it.To the person asking about XP and DX10. Anyone using DX10 is using a DirectX10 certified card and either Windows Vista or Windows 7. It does not, I repeat does NOT work under XP for FSX.John U.

See You In The Skies...
gman!

"Impossible things are simply those which so far have never been done." - Elbert Hubbard

The bufferpool adjustment may work for some, but as Skypirate reported earlier it does not work for all. I will have to try this as well to see how it goes.

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