Hi everyone,I currently use GE Pro for my scenery and it is very nice but i am always looking to improve my fs9 and saw UT Europe which includes roads, rail and water. Would this be a worthwhile upgrade or would it clash with my GE Pro. If you run with both packages, which one takes precedence or do they run combined?Although it would be good to have the best textures, is it really a case or one or the other as it seems like i would be duplicating similar products?thanks

Apples and oranges.UT re-aligns road, coasts, etc. to more realistic display.GE Pro is textures.Go for it, you won't be disappointed.Joe

Hi everyone,I currently use GE Pro for my scenery and it is very nice but i am always looking to improve my fs9 and saw UT Europe which includes roads, rail and water. Would this be a worthwhile upgrade or would it clash with my GE Pro. If you run with both packages, which one takes precedence or do they run combined?Although it would be good to have the best textures, is it really a case or one or the other as it seems like i would be duplicating similar products?thanks

As the last post said, they do two different things and work together... very well in fact. I'm currently running GE Pro (ground and sky), UT Europe, Flight Environment (for clouds*), ASA (weather) and FSGlobal (mesh) and it's looking very good indeed :)(* but not water, I use the freeware "silverwings" package instead)Geoff

chickster,Ultimate Terrain Europe is a great product. It will change you European landscape from a mixture of accidental roads, water bodies and landclass tiles into a very realistic representation of what Europe is. Each main road, river and lake will be where it should be. Same for coastlines. If you care for geographic accuracy and, especially, if you use terain features for orientation (VFR), that is a product you should not miss.Another cool feature is the night lighting. UTE adds 3D lamp lights which start emitting light after sunset making urban areas look just gorgeous. During evening approaches the world at low altitude comes to life. There is a great video somewhere around (I think it was called 'Euro2') but I can't find it now.You should know, however, that here are some possible disadvantages (as usual) of using UTE:1. Your FPS will drop (if you have a strong system, it should not be a serious problem)2. You may experience OOMs (Out of Memory errors) more often3. Unless you turn off or significantly reduce the night lights (in setup), you will lose a lot of autogen by day4. There are some mistakes here and there (you will see roads going through lakes, for example)The decision is yours. First I used it it, then didn't, and now I'm using it again. :( What can definitely be said is that combined with Ground Environment and good mesh, it makes the FS9 look as good as never before.One of the reasons, for many, to stick to FS9.

chickster,Ultimate Terrain Europe is a great product. It will change you European landscape from a mixture of accidental roads, water bodies and landclass tiles into a very realistic representation of what Europe is. Each main road, river and lake will be where it should be. Same for coastlines. If you care for geographic accuracy and, especially, if you use terain features for orientation (VFR), that is a product you should not miss.Another cool feature is the night lighting. UTE adds 3D lamp lights which start emitting light after sunset making urban areas look just gorgeous. During evening approaches the world at low altitude comes to life. There is a great video somewhere around (I think it was called 'Euro2') but I can't find it now.You should know, however, that here are some possible disadvantages (as usual) of using UTE:1. Your FPS will drop (if you have a strong system, it should not be a serious problem)2. You may experience OOMs (Out of Memory errors) more often3. Unless you turn off or significantly reduce the night lights (in setup), you will lose a lot of autogen by day4. There are some mistakes here and there (you will see roads going through lakes, for example)The decision is yours. First I used it it, then didn't, and now I'm using it again. :( What can definitely be said is that combined with Ground Environment and good mesh, it makes the FS9 look as good as never before.One of the reasons, for many, to stick to FS9.

Sounds intresting, I just have one question. I have Ge pro installed and I just install UT over it or should I deinstall GE pro first, than install UT and then GE... or doesnt it matter?

I have Ge pro installed and I just install UT over it?

Yes, it will be fine. :(

GEPro only substitutes the default ground textures with textures of its own. UT doesn't have anything to do with it, so whether you install GEPro first and then UT or vice versa doesn't make a difference. GEPro also does not meddle with your scenery library (unlike UT), so that's no problem too.

Yes, it will be fine. :(

GEPro only substitutes the default ground textures with textures of its own. UT doesn't have anything to do with it, so whether you install GEPro first and then UT or vice versa doesn't make a difference. GEPro also does not meddle with your scenery library (unlike UT), so that's no problem too.

Thanks alot guys. I will give it ago ;)