September 14, 200916 yr Is there a table somewhere showing the runway length requirements for the JS41 in various conditions? Hiding somewhere in the documentation, or somewhere on the Internet?Thanks, Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
September 14, 200916 yr Is this not in the documentation of the JS41 ? (thinking of performance tables) ____________________________________________________ Dieter de Wit
September 14, 200916 yr Gents,As I understand it, there were no generalized performance tables. Instead, the pilot referenced "Runway Analysis" that was specific to each airfield. There's no way to do that for every runway in FSX.RSR or Nick would be able to provide greater detail. Best Regards, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch Pinner, Middx, UK Beta tester for PMDG J41, NGX, and GFO, Flight1 Super King Air B200, Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang, Flight1 Cessna 182, Flight1 Cessna 177B, Aeroworx B200
September 14, 200916 yr If it's the same as the SAAB's "Runway Analysis" system, it's just another way of finding the Takeoff data. In the plane itself, there's the BIG book - AFM - that has all the performance graphs/charts for the plane. No one uses these "spaghetti charts," instead they get a subscription to a service that provides simpler to use tables that average Joe Pilot can figure out.The runway analysis is a book broken down by airport, runway, and configurations (bleeds, flaps).Soooo, you find the runway at the airport, look at the actual temp and it'll give you your max TQ% and your MTOW and your climb limit. If you're actual weight is under the runway and climb limits, you're good to go. You can also "assume" a higher temperature and come up with a reduced TQ%.This isn't really an answer, but that's how it Runway Analysis generally works. Matt Cee
September 15, 200916 yr On page 73 of the JS4100 tutorial, Rob explains that the lower EGT hash-mark nearly always equates to the book-obtained reduced torque takeoff power setting. Best Regards, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch Pinner, Middx, UK Beta tester for PMDG J41, NGX, and GFO, Flight1 Super King Air B200, Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang, Flight1 Cessna 182, Flight1 Cessna 177B, Aeroworx B200
September 15, 200916 yr On page 73 of the JS4100 tutorial, Rob explains that the lower EGT hash-mark nearly always equates to the book-obtained reduced torque takeoff power setting.Not familiar with the JS4100 yet, but in the above stated cases, I understand that the runway lenght is nearly always longer than the required lenght for a balanced reduced torque takeoff power setting, and obstacle climb limit not the limiting factor.Regards,Harry
September 15, 200916 yr Author As I understand it, there were no generalized performance tables. Instead, the pilot referenced "Runway Analysis" that was specific to each airfield. There's no way to do that for every runway in FSX.Understood. What I'm asking for is something simpler, just to get an idea what airports I can get into and back out from. E.g. can I land at / take off from YLHI (Lord Howe Island) with its 2,907' runway at sea level, ISA standard weather, no wind, with a full load of passengers?A couple of generic examples like that to extrapolate from would be great. Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
September 15, 200916 yr E.g. can I land at / take off from YLHI (Lord Howe Island) with its 2,907' runway at sea level, ISA standard weather, no wind, with a full load of passengers?I don't know for sure, but I would think that the J41 with a full load of passengers would have great difficulty taking off from a runway that is less than 3000 feet long. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 15, 200916 yr Author OK, to be even more specific about the type of information I'm looking for, something like this would be very helpful:* "Landing at maximum weight, ISA standard day, no wind, sea level runway, requires at least X,XXX' ft runway length"* "Taking off at maximum weight, ISA standard day, no wind, sea level runway, requires at least X,XXX' ft runway length"The nice thing about a JS41 sim (compared to a 747 or MD-11) is that you can go to small regional airports - but how small exactly?Thanks, Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
September 15, 200916 yr I landed on Lukla a few time. :( The speed brake and reverse thrust are so powerful that it isn't a problem.Benjamin
September 15, 200916 yr OK, to be even more specific about the type of information I'm looking for, something like this would be very helpful:* "Landing at maximum weight, ISA standard day, no wind, sea level runway, requires at least X,XXX' ft runway length"* "Taking off at maximum weight, ISA standard day, no wind, sea level runway, requires at least X,XXX' ft runway length"The nice thing about a JS41 sim (compared to a 747 or MD-11) is that you can go to small regional airports - but how small exactly?Thanks,Tom,Don't have exact figures, but maybe this is of help.If I had to buy a JS4100, the info in these links at least give me an indication how profitable I could operate the aircraft from smaller airports.http://www.cfmjet.com/pdfs/Jetstream_perfo..._comparison.pdfhttp://www.jetstream41.com/files/J41overview.pdfIn this last link see the very last page of the brochure.Regards,Harry
September 15, 200916 yr Author http://www.cfmjet.com/pdfs/Jetstream_perfo..._comparison.pdfThanks, Harry - exactly the kind of thing I was looking for! Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
September 16, 200916 yr Interesting information. That suggests that I should be able to operate this plane from Plymouth, England with no passengers and 50 per cent fuel. The main runway is 3840 feet long, although I am a bit concerned about the trees close to one end! Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
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