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Black squares with ATI HD5870

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Since I exchanged my defective Nvidia Geforce 8800GT against an ATI Radeon HD5870, I have these randomly occurring black squares when crossing certain regions. They flicker up and stay only for a very short moment. My Fsx.cfg is unedited after card exchange. I am running FSX / REX / Vista32 / DX10 / Catalyst 10.2 driver.Artifact.jpgHas anyone seen this before, and (hopefully) figured out how to fix it?Michael

Michael Thesen

MSFS, HP Reverb G2, Gigabyte B760 32Gb, Samsung 970 EVO, Geforce RTX 4070-TI, Win11, i7-14700KF, Thrustmaster T16000M, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

If you are running DX10 preview then it could be due to that. Try running FSX without DX10 preview turned on.How is the AA and AF with that card?

All you need to do is delete all of the video card entries from your FSX.cfg and let FSX rebuild the video card section of it. This happens if you change video cards and FSX sometimes get "confused" especially if their are remaining drivers from the old one sitting somewhere on the system (unless you used a program like Driver Sweeper they will still be there).Try that and give it a shot!Phil

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It is the Anti-Aliasing switch in FSX. As soon as I set AA to off, the artifacts are gone. I have already informed AMD through their technical contact form and will let you know about the answer.Michael

Michael Thesen

MSFS, HP Reverb G2, Gigabyte B760 32Gb, Samsung 970 EVO, Geforce RTX 4070-TI, Win11, i7-14700KF, Thrustmaster T16000M, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

That looks to me like an AI plane being rendered. I've seen the momentary black box appear like that on both nVidia and ATI video cards. It's possible that MipMap settings could affect this. Lately (after a lot of dinking around with video card settings) I've not seen it. In FSX, with Ultimate Traffic running, I could see the contrail, and then the black box would appear at the head of the connie just as the acft first appeared.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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I could trace it further down: it happens when the FSX Anti Aliasing is set to on and while flying offshore or near the coastline. Maybe it is the DX10 water shader. When I switch to DX9, it is gone but my framerates are less then half! ATI AMD service informed me to update my MoBo Bios and to get the latest ATI driver 10.3. Both had no effect.I have read somewhere that one should set AA off inside FSX and use the ATI Catalyst Control Center to set AA to 16x. However, there is no AA at all when I try this.Any suggestions?Michael

Michael Thesen

MSFS, HP Reverb G2, Gigabyte B760 32Gb, Samsung 970 EVO, Geforce RTX 4070-TI, Win11, i7-14700KF, Thrustmaster T16000M, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

I usually get it when far away runway lights just enter visual range.

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Thank You, Phil!After the second delete and automatic re-build of the fsx.cfg the problem vanished.Michael

Michael Thesen

MSFS, HP Reverb G2, Gigabyte B760 32Gb, Samsung 970 EVO, Geforce RTX 4070-TI, Win11, i7-14700KF, Thrustmaster T16000M, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

All you need to do is delete all of the video card entries from your FSX.cfg and let FSX rebuild the video card section of it. This happens if you change video cards and FSX sometimes get "confused" especially if their are remaining drivers from the old one sitting somewhere on the system (unless you used a program like Driver Sweeper they will still be there).Try that and give it a shot!Phil
Hi PhilCould you explain/show exactly what I have to delete in the FSX.cfg? /Anders
Hi PhilCould you explain/show exactly what I have to delete in the FSX.cfg? /Anders
Delete all of the DISPLAY.Device.xxxxxxx sections--and go through the whole. fsx.cfg file, as there can be a bunch of them.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Delete alll of the DISPLAY.Device.xxxxxxx sections (and go through the whole. fsx.cfg file, as there can be a bunch of them.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO
ok,thanks :) / Anders

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