This a flightplan from KJFK to KBOS from FlightAware. MERIT ORW ORW082 PVD263 PVD ORW3. Does anyone know what defines these two waypoints: ORW082 PVD263? I have been seeing more and more of these types of waypoints especiallly in plans filed by American and Fedex. How would these be entered into the FMS. I am still entering plans into the FMS with the original database which came with the MD11. I believe this was effective in the Spring of 2008. When I try to enter these types of waypoints, I receive a message saying NOT IN DATABASE. Any explanation would be appreciated.Thank youMichael Cubine

I believe flightaware here is just telling you one of two things, either the bearing from or to each waypoint, or perhaps the airway that it is traveling. So in the FMC I would imagine it would just be input as MERIT ORW PVD ORW3 for waypoints and add the airways or bearings as 082 to the ORW waypoint and 263 to the PVD waypoint. Not able to test to see which is which right now but it's something along these lines I would think.

The route is MERIT ORW then outbound on the ORW 082 radial to intercept the PVD 263 radial inbound to PVD. The best way to build this is to create a place bearing/place bearing waypoint like you can in the 747 or 737 fmc. Not sure if thats possible in the MD11. Adam Cole

In the MD11 you will use the INTC CRS

Can't the MD11 do Place/Bearing/Place Bearing?ORW/082/PVD/263Paul

Can't the MD11 do Place/Bearing/Place Bearing?ORW/082/PVD/263Paul

No but a PBD (Place, Bearing, Distance) in this format xxx/yyy/dd/ Leffe

Sure, as Leffe said, but if you are flying a radial to intercept the radial you usually don't know the distance so I suggested heading to intercept course to fix. That will work without knowing distance.

Sure, as Leffe said, but if you are flying a radial to intercept the radial you usually don't know the distance so I suggested heading to intercept course to fix. That will work without knowing distance.

Right Dan!.....I always used to be so astonished, when seeing those ac disasters on National Geograpich, when the pilotsgets their heads plowed down in the RTFM, :( instead of taking manual control of the ac by first hand, before checking./ Leffe

MERIT ORW ORW082 PVD263 PVD ORW3. The more I look at this plan the less sense it makes. ORW3 is the Norwich STAR for KBOS. One of the TP of this STAR is JFK. The ending point is INNDY south of KBOS. It makes sense to takeoff from KJFK, use ORW3 as a STAR and JKF as the TP. However it looks like everything was deleted from this STAR except ORW and PVD and MERIT wa added. ORW082 and PVD263 seem unnessescery since in the STAR these are exactly the radials that connect ORW and PVD directly.I flew this route twice last night in a 752. I used ORW3 with JKF as a TP and added two wayponts between INNDY and 22L ILS. The two added waypoints made the route more easterly and northly so I could get a bigger arc turning to the SW for 22L.I see how to use the FMS to create these waypoints out of thin air. The steps are listed in the Advanced Flight Planning section of the FMS Manual. I believe these could be used around airports for help in various approaches. I will try several things over the next several days and post the results.Thanks for all of the help.Michael Cubine

Note ORW3 is for turbojets only, perhaps that is a flightplan filed for a turboprop?In my SIDSTAR Collection, I provide a connection between all arrivals and all ILS approaches for Boston and a large number of others. Try it out, avsim library filename cycle_1003_sidstars.zip