June 16, 201015 yr I have tried to create my own ai flights but the aircraft do not appear. As far as I can tell I am doing it correctly (I get no error messages). Here is an example, written it GMT with the correct aircraft title.AC#7119,N30062,95%,8Hr,VFR,13:39:58,14:21:10,040,R,9026,KSEF,18:18:56,19:00:08,040,R,9027,KSRQReplacing the aircraft with a default aircraft makes no difference. What else should I do if the flight plan is correctly written?
June 16, 201015 yr Are you checking the airports using GMT times? That's what flight plans are written in. Also, where did you put the compiled BGL file? Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page
June 17, 201015 yr I have tried to create my own ai flights but the aircraft do not appear. As far as I can tell I am doing it correctly (I get no error messages). Here is an example, written it GMT with the correct aircraft title.AC#7119,N30062,95%,8Hr,VFR,13:39:58,14:21:10,040,R,9026,KSEF,18:18:56,19:00:08,040,R,9027,KSRQReplacing the aircraft with a default aircraft makes no difference. What else should I do if the flight plan is correctly written?What program are you using to compile the Traffic file?Are the aircraft.txt and airports.txt files written correctly also?
June 17, 201015 yr Author Are you checking the airports using GMT times? That's what flight plans are written in. Also, where did you put the compiled BGL file?I go to the airport, in this case KSRQ, and set the time at 05:39:58 in the GMT box which also reads 01:39:58 local time - actually I set it a couple of minutes before to note the AI airplane taxi and take off except it never appears. The plan was written into Flightplans030528.txt in the Traffic030528.bgl. I'm not sure I understand "where did I put the compiled BGL file"
June 17, 201015 yr Author What program are you using to compile the Traffic file?Are the aircraft.txt and airports.txt files written correctly also?I'm using Traffic Tools to compile the Traffic file. The title of the aircraft is exactly what is in the aircraft.cfg and KSRQ is the correct spelling for Sarasota International
June 17, 201015 yr Might be a good idea to run Aircraft Analyser.This brilliant tool tells you stuff like "is an aircraft in a flightplan, but not found in your aircraft folder?"
June 17, 201015 yr I go to the airport, in this case KSRQ, and set the time at 05:39:58 in the GMT box which also reads 01:39:58 local time - actually I set it a couple of minutes before to note the AI airplane taxi and take off except it never appears. The plan was written into Flightplans030528.txt in the Traffic030528.bgl. I'm not sure I understand "where did I put the compiled BGL file"May I suggest another approach?FS2004 allows you to create as many individual Traffic files as you might wish as long as each is named uniquely - so there is no need to add to the large default traffic file (traffic030528.bgl).To test out the plan you wrote I would create three new text files in your Traffic Tools folder - aircraft_test.txt, airports_test.txt and flightplans_test.txt - when finally compiled, these will yield a file named Traffic_test.bgl.Place only one aircraft in the aircraft_test.txt file - i.e. AC#1,200,"Beech Baron 58" as a test aircraft.Place only the two airports involved in your plan in the airports_test.txt file. You can use the Collect Airports utility which comes with TT to create a text file named Airports_FS2004.txt. From it you can Copy and Paste the data for these two airports into your airports_text.txt file.Place the flightplan data you wrote into the flightplans_test.txt file - being sure it references AC#1 or whatever aircraft number you used in the aircraft_test.txt file.Compile these three files - it will create a Traffic file named Traffic_test.bgl - which should be placed in your Scenery/World/scenery subfolder.To disable the default traffic file (so the only traffic you should see is what you just created) simply rename the default traffic file as traffic030528.bgl.ORIGStart up FS2004 and go to the airport(s) in question at the correct time and assuming you have GA traffic enabled and the percentage slider set high enough, you should see the Baron in action.If not, then you have a very simply Traffic file to "troubleshoot" rather than the huge default Traffic file.Keep us posted.
June 18, 201015 yr ...I'm not sure I understand "where did I put the compiled BGL file"You would not be the first to misdirect the output from Traffic Tools to the wrong folder. :( Many attempts at debugging flightplans later, you find that the sim has been reading the same old bgl, because it was never changed! But Aircraft Analyser is your friend there too.And David makes a good point - better to create a new traffic file for specific requirements, later you can add to it or remove it as necessary.
June 21, 201015 yr Author May I suggest another approach?FS2004 allows you to create as many individual Traffic files as you might wish as long as each is named uniquely - so there is no need to add to the large default traffic file (traffic030528.bgl).To test out the plan you wrote I would create three new text files in your Traffic Tools folder - aircraft_test.txt, airports_test.txt and flightplans_test.txt - when finally compiled, these will yield a file named Traffic_test.bgl.Place only one aircraft in the aircraft_test.txt file - i.e. AC#1,200,"Beech Baron 58" as a test aircraft.Place only the two airports involved in your plan in the airports_test.txt file. You can use the Collect Airports utility which comes with TT to create a text file named Airports_FS2004.txt. From it you can Copy and Paste the data for these two airports into your airports_text.txt file.Place the flightplan data you wrote into the flightplans_test.txt file - being sure it references AC#1 or whatever aircraft number you used in the aircraft_test.txt file.Compile these three files - it will create a Traffic file named Traffic_test.bgl - which should be placed in your Scenery/World/scenery subfolder.To disable the default traffic file (so the only traffic you should see is what you just created) simply rename the default traffic file as traffic030528.bgl.ORIGStart up FS2004 and go to the airport(s) in question at the correct time and assuming you have GA traffic enabled and the percentage slider set high enough, you should see the Baron in action.If not, then you have a very simply Traffic file to "troubleshoot" rather than the huge default Traffic file.Keep us posted.DavidThanks for the suggestions. I did create a "traffic_test" folder for just one flight plan, created a test.bgl, made sure it was in the scenery-world-scenery folder and idled the default "traffic.bgl". Unfortunately still no luck. I tried using a default aircraft for the same flight plan which accomplished nothing. I've checked that all the aircraft were indeed in the aircraft folder, the first time listed in a flightplan is the departure time in GMT,the airports were large enough to cope with the aircraft in question. What else do I need to do???Bob
June 21, 201015 yr Author You would not be the first to misdirect the output from Traffic Tools to the wrong folder. :( Many attempts at debugging flightplans later, you find that the sim has been reading the same old bgl, because it was never changed! But Aircraft Analyser is your friend there too.And David makes a good point - better to create a new traffic file for specific requirements, later you can add to it or remove it as necessary.Thanks for the reply and for the suggestion of Aircraft Analyzer. Even trying the suggestions put forth by David have not worked for me. I'm probably doing something wrong but I know not what. Question - does traffic tools automatically place the traffic.bgl folder in the main flightsim folder or the scenery-world folder or both?
June 21, 201015 yr Thanks for the reply and for the suggestion of Aircraft Analyzer. Even trying the suggestions put forth by David have not worked for me. I'm probably doing something wrong but I know not what. Question - does traffic tools automatically place the traffic.bgl folder in the main flightsim folder or the scenery-world folder or both?You can define where TT will place the output - just click on the File option on the bar at the top.There is an option to use the "default" or a user defined destination.If you wish, you can zip up your problematic small Traffic file and send it to me via a regular e-mail. I will be happy to look it over and test it and report back.Just click on the drop down menu by name name above my picture and send me a PM (Personal message) with your e-mail address so we can communicate that way.
June 22, 201015 yr MADSCOT -I created a simple "test" Traffic file - which basically uses your data with a few minor changes. The test Traffic file is named Traffic_test_2.bgl and here are the elements so you can compare what I did against yours. BTW this works just fine for me.Flightplans_test_2.txtAC#1,N30062,5%,8Hr,VFR,02:38:58,03:13:22,030,F,1234,KSEF,03:38:58,04:13:22,030,F,1234,KSRQNote that I changed the percentage to 5% and altered the times slightly.Aircraft_test_2.txtAC#1,200,"Beech Baron 58"Note there are no extra spaces between the description and the required quotation marks.Airports_test_2.txtKSEF,N27* 27.36',W81* 20.53',62KSRQ,N27* 23.70',W82* 33.25',30When compiled the yielded Traffic_test_2.bgl which was autiomatically placed in my Scenery/World/scenery subfolder.I loaded up FS2004 and went to KSRQ with the Time set at 18:37 GMT. At 18:39 the Baron started up and took off for KSEF. It arrived there approx 19:18 (touchdown) and was parked by 19:26.It reset itself to depart at 19:38 with an estimated arrival back at KSRQ at 20:15 - This sequence would repeat every eight hours.If you are going to be using a different aircraft, be sure to check it's radius (Afcad - Aircraft Editor menu under Tools) and check to see that both airports have parking available for that radius or larger.BTW I turned off Airline Traffic and had only GA traffic enabled and set at 6% for these tests.Hope this info is helpful.
June 22, 201015 yr I just learned this today... AC#1,200,"Beech Baron 58"Note there are no extra spaces between the description and the required quotation marks.I compiled a traffic file without the quotation marks and it compiled fine.TTools added them when I de-compiled the traffic file.All these years of typing those silly quotation marks wasted.Sorry to budge in...regards,Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
June 22, 201015 yr I just learned this today...I compiled a traffic file without the quotation marks and it compiled fine.TTools added them when I de-compiled the traffic file.All these years of typing those silly quotation marks wasted.Sorry to budge in...regards,JoeInteresting observation Joe - I must experiment with that.What I was attempting to point out to the OP was that there should be no "extra spaces" - which can easily happen when using the copy and paste method to copy the description from the title= line of the aircraft.
June 22, 201015 yr Author MADSCOT -I created a simple "test" Traffic file - which basically uses your data with a few minor changes. The test Traffic file is named Traffic_test_2.bgl and here are the elements so you can compare what I did against yours. BTW this works just fine for me.Flightplans_test_2.txtAC#1,N30062,5%,8Hr,VFR,02:38:58,03:13:22,030,F,1234,KSEF,03:38:58,04:13:22,030,F,1234,KSRQNote that I changed the percentage to 5% and altered the times slightly.Aircraft_test_2.txtAC#1,200,"Beech Baron 58"Note there are no extra spaces between the description and the required quotation marks.Airports_test_2.txtKSEF,N27* 27.36',W81* 20.53',62KSRQ,N27* 23.70',W82* 33.25',30When compiled the yielded Traffic_test_2.bgl which was autiomatically placed in my Scenery/World/scenery subfolder.I loaded up FS2004 and went to KSRQ with the Time set at 18:37 GMT. At 18:39 the Baron started up and took off for KSEF. It arrived there approx 19:18 (touchdown) and was parked by 19:26.It reset itself to depart at 19:38 with an estimated arrival back at KSRQ at 20:15 - This sequence would repeat every eight hours.If you are going to be using a different aircraft, be sure to check it's radius (Afcad - Aircraft Editor menu under Tools) and check to see that both airports have parking available for that radius or larger.BTW I turned off Airline Traffic and had only GA traffic enabled and set at 6% for these tests.Hope this info is helpful.DavidThank you for everything. I've got it working and think that the problem was conflicting Traffic-bgl's. When I totally removed all the traffic-bgls and made up a new one, I've now got ai traffic. I do have one question regarding the take-off time in your example. It is written 02:38:58 and you said you set the departure time at 18:38 GMT. I thought the flightplan times were written in GMT and wouldn't the departure time in the flight plan be written 18 etc?
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