July 22, 201015 yr Ah ok. I was aware of displaced threshold arrow markings but didn't quite know about the crabbing.Quite a set of interesting links I gotta say. Thanks for those! :(
July 22, 201015 yr Author "Hey, might be an unusual question but I now think it rendered some pretty interesting replies!"Yeah, seriously. This is great! H e l p k e e p A V S I M f l y i n g
July 22, 201015 yr Rough landings? How about no landing at all. My wife and I flew from Narita to Sydney on an ANA 747. We came in from over the water, and we were gear down, flaps down and not more than 500 feet off the water, when we were denied landing because the minimums had been met. Airport was closed due to lack of visibility. Full power, gear up, flaps up and away we went. We circled Sydney for a while (a very short while) and then diverted to Brisbane. An hour or two there and some fuel, and then back to Sydney where things had cleared. I had been through "go arounds" before, so I wasn't too surprised, but my wife could not wait to get off that plane. I have probably flown into Kingsford Smith two dozen times over the last 30 years or so, and that is the only time that the plane I was on was diverted.Funnily enough one of my landings in Brisbane would have to be the roughest. Out of Port Moresby in a 767, put into a hold as thunderstorms swept YBBN and when we landed we were staying down! Overhead lockers opened, masks dropped etc. Would have been better if we had diverted to Sydney :) Scott
July 23, 201015 yr Using Google Maps I just estimated the runway with to be around 80m or so (including shoulders though), does anyone have a number ready...?You can use the ruler in Google Earth and I get 113 metres from the outer white lines on the edge of the runway. 83m for the two lines in from that and 70 metres for the concrete down the centre. As it looks like there are some lights on the shoulder and the runway threshold only covers the concrete centre I think 70m would be the usuable runway width.There's some interesting aircraft parked there. Does anyone know what these concorde like aircraft are (centre and bottom right)?
July 23, 201015 yr ...............There's some interesting aircraft parked there. Does anyone know what these concorde like aircraft are (centre and bottom right)?Tupolev Tu-144s (Concordski)As for the rest:-The big 4 engined turboprops are Tupolev Tu-95 Bears.-The big swing-wing aircraft next to the Blue Hangar building is a Tupolev Tu-160 supersonic bomber.-It looks like a bunch of Tu-204 types all over the place.-Looks like there's a Tupolev Tu-334 next to one of the 'Bears'.-In the left corner it looks like a crowd of Tu-154s as well as more Tu-204s.-Left of the Tu-334 - It looks like a Tupolev Tu-22M (another supersonic, swing-wing, bomber)-Top left corner looks like a Tu-134 next to a Tu-204.A Tupolev convention.
July 23, 201015 yr For least extreme airport I nominate some unused dirt strip in the middle of nowhere.(But if it has to be an official airport I'd probably go with KSFB before it was redeveloped as a passenger hub.)
July 23, 201015 yr You can use the ruler in Google Earth and I get 113 metres from the outer white lines on the edge of the runway. 83m for the two lines in from that and 70 metres for the concrete down the centre. As it looks like there are some lights on the shoulder and the runway threshold only covers the concrete centre I think 70m would be the usuable runway width.Thanks, I was aware of that possibility but don't have GE installed at this time, that's why I could only use GMaps. :( Still sounds like a massive runway lol.
July 24, 201015 yr Rough landings? How about no landing at all. My wife and I flew from Narita to Sydney on an ANA 747. We came in from over the water, and we were gear down, flaps down and not more than 500 feet off the water, when we were denied landing because the minimums had been met. Airport was closed due to lack of visibility. Full power, gear up, flaps up and away we went. We circled Sydney for a while (a very short while) and then diverted to Brisbane. An hour or two there and some fuel, and then back to Sydney where things had cleared. I had been through "go arounds" before, so I wasn't too surprised, but my wife could not wait to get off that plane. I have probably flown into Kingsford Smith two dozen times over the last 30 years or so, and that is the only time that the plane I was on was diverted.i know, i do live in sydney, hence the reason why i said that we get coulds from the mountains. its also good because as you pointed out you can divirt to brisbane if needed. but ive never heard a 747 have to do a go-around because of minimums, the minimums is only 300 feet above the runway
July 24, 201015 yr For least extreme airport, how about KBFL? 10800' runway at 500' MSL. Also gets minimal traffic. Though, if you think about it, almost every major airport in the world is fairly mellow. Unless you count massive traffic levels as "extreme". Joe Sherrill
July 26, 201015 yr Author "Unless you count massive traffic levels as "extreme". "Well, yes, I suppose that less traffic = less extreme. Certainly un-complicates things a bit. H e l p k e e p A V S I M f l y i n g
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