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Why do I get jagged edges?

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I've been simming a long time. Until recently I used my trusty Dell Dimension 4600 with 2.5g of RAM and 256mg ATI memory. FS9 ran pretty good, although I never visited places like London or New York for fear of a considerable lack of frame rates. Well the old girl finally gave up the ghost, and I upgraded to a Inspiron 570 with 6g of RAM and got myself an Nvidia GTS450 1gb video card. I couldnt wait to get FS9 reinstalled on this new machine!! For the most part, it hasn't disappointed. Frames are through the roof and London and New York are regular stops now. One issue I'm having is driving me nuts. I get jagged lines on my aircraft. I also get them on runways when viewing them at an angle, and I notice shimmering on some add-on scenery. On my old system I would just adjust the AA and bingo, gorgeous smooth aircraft textures. But not with this card. I've tried everything...all kinds of AA settings, AA off, went from VGA to DVI cable, different drivers, etc.. Sill jagged lines. I cannot get Nhancer to run with the drivers my video card require.Why would my old 256mb ATI card show me better graphics than my 1024mb nVidia card??? Is there anything else I can try to better things? Thanks, I do appreciate any help!

Tried faffing about with anisotropic filtering on your graphics card utility?Al

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Sure have. Have tried every AF setting.

Hello,I suggest you to make a search with the word NhancerRegards.bye.gifGus.

Hello,I suggest you to make a search with the word NhancerRegards.bye.gifGus.
Indeed.. unless you're running 2.6.0 or later drivers - http://forum.nhancer.com/showthread.php?t=1768Haven't been able to rollback to an earlier set, either - will constantly fail to install backdated drivers. I've resorted to using NVInspector, which is much the same, just without the pretty UI :)Still trying to get best settings, but NVInspector is pretty complicated in terms of the right settings to get.You can get NVInspector here - http://blog.orbmu2k.de/tools/nvidia-inspector-tool

Louise

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What screen resolution are you running FS9 at? Mine is set at 1920x1080x32, and my mid-range Radeon does a great job of removing the jaggies. Check your settings in the Hardware section (settings/display/hardware) and since your performance is much improved, try upping the resolution to the max your card is capable of. Using the best resolution gives the AA the best possible quality of picture to work with.;)

What screen resolution are you running FS9 at? Mine is set at 1920x1080x32, and my mid-range Radeon does a great job of removing the jaggies. Check your settings in the Hardware section (settings/display/hardware) and since your performance is much improved, try upping the resolution to the max your card is capable of. Using the best resolution gives the AA the best possible quality of picture to work with.;)
Exactly what I was thinking. My monitor has a native resolution of 2560x1440. if I now run anything on it with a resolution lower than 1920x1080, I get jagged edges. This might be your problem, too. As microlight said: up your resolution to your card's max (not FS9's max!), if you haven't done so already.

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I also run my resolution at 1920x1080x32. As I sit here at work, I'm not sure if thats the highest resolution the card will go, I'll check on that tonight. It IS the highest resolution that FS has listed in the sim. As for Nhancer, I am having the same issue as leostr. Apparently the GTS450 is a rather new card and will only run with relatively new drivers, therefore Nhancer doesnt run. I've installed it, tried to run it, get the opening screen and then it just goes away. I've also downloaded NVinspector and taken a look at it, but to be honest, I have NO idea what to change on it. Like you said, its a bit confusing. Do you have any tips on what to play around with in NVinspector?thanks!Chris

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Ok...my top resolution is 1920x1080 and its what I'm running at. Tonight I went back to the latest drivers (260.99) and toyed around with NVinspector a lot. Nothing has worked. Jagged edges prevail. I'm tempted to put my old 256mb ATI card back in. Both FIFA11 and Medal of Honor Airborne both look fantastic, its just FS9 that is giving me this issue.

Could it be the NVidia default "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile which is the issue?http://forum.avsim.net/topic/241126-fs9-antialiasing-frustration/page__p__1538347__hl__anti+aliasing+nhancer__fromsearch__1#entry1538347RJ

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Thanks for that link RJ, I wonder if thats what my issue is. Problem is, I cannot get nHancer to run. Apparently since my card is relatively new it requires the latest drivers and nHancer doesnt like them. I try to run it and the opening screen appears and nothing happens. I read that nHancer 2.60 was being created at one point to run with the latest drivers, but I dont know when it will be available.Sounds like I might be stuck until 2.60 comes out. :(

It might be your issue, and it may not. All I know is anti-aliasing is a strange dog.Because I don't know what changes have been made with the new Nvidia drivers I really can't comment too much on your issue.However, I fixed my anti-aliasing problem by deleting the default "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile that nVidia drivers installed.Was it the correct thing to do? For me yes. I installed nHancer (on my test system) only to delete the "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile and note the changes made. Because my dedicated FS2004 hard drive only has Windows XP and FS2004 installed, I did not install nHancer on it. Keep in mind, what I'll share with you is based on older Nvidia drivers, and Windows XP, so things maybe very different for you. What I did:1. Installed nHancer on my test system.2. Deleted the "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile and noted changes made to my system.3. Manually delete the "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile on my "FS2004" hard drive (didn't install nHancer).Nvidia profiles are stored in a file called "nvapps.xml" found here c:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapps.xml. (you can edit this file with notepad)Also profile info is stored in the registry. To manually delete the "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile without using nHancer:First make a backup copy of file: c:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapps.xml Edit file: nvapps.xml using notepad and delete this section:</PROFILE> <PROFILE Label="MS Flight Simulator 2004"> <APPLICATION Label="FS9.exe"/> <PROPERTY Label="aa_behavior_flags" Value="0x00000001" Default="0x00000001" Itemtype="predefined"/> <PROPERTY Label="multichip_rendering_mode" Value="0x0240000D" Default="0x0240000D" Itemtype="predefined"/> <PROPERTY Label="af_default" Value="0x00000010" Default="0x00000001"/> <PROPERTY Label="aniso_optimization" Value="0x00000000" Default="0x00000000"/> <PROPERTY Label="aniso_selector" Value="0x10000000" Default="0x00000000"/> <PROPERTY Label="aniso_sample_optimization" Value="0x00000000" Default="0x00000000"/> <PROPERTY Label="d3d_negative_lod_bias_status" Value="0x00000001" Default="0x00000000"/> <PROPERTY Label="aa_default" Value="0x00000026" Default="0x00000000"/> <PROPERTY Label="aa_selector" Value="0x20000000" Default="0x00000000"/> </PROFILE>nHancer also deleted a few sections in my registry.If you click start-run and type: regedit you can view profile information and delete it manually.Before playing in the registry, I'd make an image of your hard drive first, and then export your registry so you can restore it if needed.Keep in mind playing with the registry can cause serious problems, so you may not try this. Perform this at your own risk.Open up the registry using the command regedit. Once in the Registry Editor, Click File-Find and search for: FS9.exe:D3DNow Click File-Export and save this section to your desktop in case you want to restore the changes we're going to make.On the right pane you should see:FS9.exe:D3D_1657484FS9.exe:D3D_3092828FS9.exe:D3D_4073838FS9.exe:D3DOGL_049594848FS9.exe:D3DOGL_049594848FS9.exe:D3DOGL_049594848FS9.exe:D3DOGL_049594848Right click on each line and delete. You have just manually deleted the "MS Flight Simulator 2004" profile.You can now use the nVidia control panel (Global settings) to control Anti-Aliasing for FS2004.If you want to restore the changes we just made above:Copy back the nvapps.xml file you made a copy of before editing it.Double click on the registry.reg backup file you created before deleting the lines above.RJ

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Thanks RJ, that sounds promising. I'm quite familiar with regedit, so I'm off to make some backups and give this a go.----well, things are obviously very different for me. First, I discovered that nvapps.xml is no longer used with the new drivers...I couldn't find it anywhere and did a bit of research. Then, I took a look in the registry and those lines are nowhere to be found. The combination of Windows7 and 260.+ drivers are my demise so far. I see the FS2004 profile in the nVidia control panel, just not sure how to delete it. More research awaits.Its sounding like the development (or lack thereof) of nHancer 2.60 is holding me hostage with this jagged line issue.Thanks for the suggestions, I'm open to any ideas

As I'm sure you've done, google...http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=161381http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=133441Let's hope nHancer update gets released soon.Good luckRJ

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yeah, it seems that everything is dependent on being able to use nHancer. I would have to believe that going forward more and more people will be using the 260+ drivers and therefore will need a new version of it. I can only hope and be patient. I'll still give it a tweak here and there to see if I can discover any way around this and if I do I'll make sure to post it. Again, thanks for the suggestions and any new ideas are more than welcome!

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