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FS9 and Windows 7 - run in XP Mode?

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Hi EveryoneAfter dithering for ages, I finally took the plunge and ordered a new PC that will hopefully give me the blazing performance with FS9 that has been my dream since it first came out!I got the Windows 7 Professional 64 bit version which has a Windows XP mode. I wonder what opinions there might be out there as to what my best approach would be - install into Windows 7 and try to get everything working or just use the XP Mode from the beginning and install into that?I know that different people are going to have had different experiences, but I would just be interested to see if there's some kind of general consensus?Thanks :(

FS9 does not need to run in 'xp mode'. most reports show the sim runs slower, SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER, for some ... like 60-100 fps down to 5-10 fps.install FS into it's own disk and folder, NOT the win7 / programs folder.make sure UAC is OFF for the FS disk.make sure all users have full access rights to the FS disk.--

D. Scobie, feelThere support forum moderator: https://forum.simflight.com/forum/169-feelthere-support-forums/

Hi EveryoneAfter dithering for ages, I finally took the plunge and ordered a new PC that will hopefully give me the blazing performance with FS9 that has been my dream since it first came out!I got the Windows 7 Professional 64 bit version which has a Windows XP mode. I wonder what opinions there might be out there as to what my best approach would be - install into Windows 7 and try to get everything working or just use the XP Mode from the beginning and install into that?I know that different people are going to have had different experiences, but I would just be interested to see if there's some kind of general consensus?Thanks :(
HelloThe XP mode (virtual Machine) that is part of Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate does not support 3D acceleration or Direct3D or OpenGL so running 3D games is out of the question.It is designed to run legacy business applications only.Here is some more infohttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/reviews/2010/01/windows-xp-mode.ars/4Scoobs suggestions are the way to go, I would also add that you would be advised to install all applications "for all users" rather than just for yourself.to prevent futher issues with pre Win7 software and the so called "virtual store"

Once I got the new box, .tThe first thing I would do -- the VERY first thing -- would be to make sure I have a full recover disk that will return my computer to manufacturer, out of the box running condition, I'd format the entire hard drive, and then I'd install a copy of a Windows XP Pro (64 bit!) from an OEM disk I bought over the internet. There are plenty available. If this is to be mainly an FS9 flight sim computer I would run it on the OS it was designed for. Just my two cents.

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

Once I got the new box, .tThe first thing I would do -- the VERY first thing -- would be to make sure I have a full recover disk that will return my computer to manufacturer, out of the box running condition, I'd format the entire hard drive, and then I'd install a copy of a Windows XP Pro (64 bit!) from an OEM disk I bought over the internet. There are plenty available. If this is to be mainly an FS9 flight sim computer I would run it on the OS it was designed for. Just my two cents.
Hello ChuckBest advice yet, XP64 is just rock solid these days.I tried W764 but just too many little annoyances, nothing too major but when they all add up it was not worth the trouble.With XP64 it all just works , no niggles I just boot up and fly.
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Thanks guys. So far it seems split, with XP64 maybe the preferred way to go, but I will also heed the advice about Win7. Chuck is correct in thinking that FS9 is the reason I have purchased the new PC - my current machine runs all my normal apps perfectly well. So what I want is absolutely optimum conditions for FS9. Maybe the way to go is to first make that recover disk so I can restore everything to clean condition anyway - then I might give W7 a try and see if it's a hassle. As I've looked over the forums it seems some people have no problems at all and others find it a nightmare. If it's not working out then I'll just format the HD and install XP64 and go from there.Sound okay?

FS9 does not need to run in 'xp mode'. most reports show the sim runs slower, SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER, for some ... like 60-100 fps down to 5-10 fps.install FS into it's own disk and folder, NOT the win7 / programs folder.make sure UAC is OFF for the FS disk.make sure all users have full access rights to the FS disk.--
Thanks Scoob. Sorry to be dense but I'm not familiar with "UAC?" Certainly do plan the install to seperate disk - got dual HD for that very reason.
Thanks guys. So far it seems split, with XP64 maybe the preferred way to go, but I will also heed the advice about Win7. Chuck is correct in thinking that FS9 is the reason I have purchased the new PC - my current machine runs all my normal apps perfectly well. So what I want is absolutely optimum conditions for FS9. Maybe the way to go is to first make that recover disk so I can restore everything to clean condition anyway - then I might give W7 a try and see if it's a hassle. As I've looked over the forums it seems some people have no problems at all and others find it a nightmare. If it's not working out then I'll just format the HD and install XP64 and go from there.Sound okay?Thanks Scoob. Sorry to be dense but I'm not familiar with "UAC?" Certainly do plan the install to seperate disk - got dual HD for that very reason.
HelloJust when you thought you had administrator privileges on your login account, UAC is what pops up and destroys that illusion.
HelloJust when you thought you had administrator privileges on your login account, UAC is what pops up and destroys that illusion.
UAC stands for User Account Control which was a little Gem introduced in Windows VISTA, and carried over in W7. It requires that most changes and enhancements be run under an administrator account; probably a good idea except that it's wayyyyy to restrictive, and it's really easy to shut off. :Applause:Hello, maddog!
Hello ChuckBest advice yet,
I always get really scared whenever anybody says that . . . Big%20Grin.gif

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

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UAC stands for User Account Control which was a little Gem introduced in Windows VISTA, and carried over in W7. It requires that most changes and enhancements be run under an administrator account; probably a good idea except that it's wayyyyy to restrictive, and it's really easy to shut off. :Applause:Hello, maddog!I always get really scared whenever anybody says that . . . Big%20Grin.gif
Thanks Chuck - I skipped the whole VISTA fiasco so this is new to me. Where does one go to shut it off?Ian
Hello ChuckBest advice yet, XP64 is just rock solid these days.I tried W764 but just too many little annoyances, nothing too major but when they all add up it was not worth the trouble.With XP64 it all just works , no niggles I just boot up and fly.
How much memory can you run on the XP 64 bit OS?
How much memory can you run on the XP 64 bit OS?
You know what? I can't remember the maximum off hand, but it's at least 8 gig. I'm currently running FS9 with 4 gigs and my computer just roars (see specs below) but I've personally had as much as 6 gigs in it. No need for "The 4 GB Switch" either - that's what made me first come over from the 32 bit side.

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

Hope this is not off thread, but where does one buy a copy of XP these days

E Bay

"How much memory can you run on the XP 64 bit OS?" Hi, if i remember correctly W XP 64 , can handle 16 GB of RAM.Regrads.Miquel.

How much memory can you run on the XP 64 bit OS?
HelloXP 64 is limited to 128GB main memory and 16TiB of virtual memory Should be enough for now :(

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