i have a question before buying the new grand caravan HD 208is there a lot of difference with the default from ms fsx acceleration?

You can expect much better optics, better sounds, more functional instruments, nice repaints, a slightly tweaked default flight model and some documentation and gimmicks. Surely things to enjoy this versatile plane even more but you have to decide if the additional cost is ok for you.As for the optics, check their site and click some screenshots to see that you get some fine ones while people looking for an exact representation of technical details will have to be willing to compromise here and there.Personal preference of course but way better than the already ok (for the price of it) default plane.Be aware that buying the base model only gives you the passenger optics while the cargo variant comes at extra costs but doesn't simulate any differences as far as I could see. So cargo pod on or off gives you the same plane behavior and performance while the real thing differs there for example.But don't get me wrong, this thing is fun to fly and to use for exploring remote fields and stuff. The Carenado also comes with a working weather radar gauge which doesn't work as good as the retail things but adds some atmosphere in my eyes.I use this plane on nearly all Orbx bush trips and enjoy it every time. Framerates are also very good as on most Carenado planes.

I can't say I am a real Carenado a really excited user - I just have 3 of their products in my hangar - but the Grand Caravan is my favorite bush a/c since it was released.Coupled with some Reality XP solid gauges it is a very well simulated piece of addon.The flight dynamics is excellent (idle the engine and you will fall down like a leave then push the throttle to full power and your nose will reach the stars!)It flies like the real thing, a quite heavy aircraft with its powerful Pratt & Whitney PT6A single turboprop engine (680 hp!).The VC is done with a fantastic level of details and the external textures are great as well.I can only regret that they didn't release an amphibian version.If you like bush flying this lady is for you.

thank you both very much for the additional information.a last question is:i have a carenado p28 arrow iv, will this flight attitude be the sameas the caravan or is it not compateble?

A different plane, a different thing, doeke. They both might be Carenados but are completely different on performance, weight, size, engine (piston against turbine) and so on.There will be something to learn on the C208 as RPM and torque values are important now. You will find the C208 being able of short field operations although it's quite big. That huge prop together with the powerful engine and the rest of constructive work will enable some nice support missions for you.So in short: a totally different thing when compared to your mentioned P28 but a fun one of course. As the default C208 has the same differences towards the PA28, you can experience them if you like without having to buy anything. The Carenado then changes the presentation but not the soul of that plane.The C208 behaves very good and forgiving if you meant that with compatible. So you don't get into trouble when being to rude or something on the controls. As said, an easy flyer with enough power to get you out of trouble.

Can someone confirm/deny that the Cargo expansion model has the same flight dynamics as the pax version?Thanks!

Well, pax and cargo version (without pod) shouldn't differ too much in reality, at least concerning the overall behavior.But I've just checked the aircraft.cfg values on both variants: all the same. I haven't gone through the .air file variables of both but the have exactly the same time of "Date modified" and therefor could very much be the same.Alexander M. Metzger spoke about the slightly changed default (flight dynamics) basis of this plane and the lack of differences when using the cargo pod or not. This should give you some other performance values and fuel consumption but isn't modeled.Edited: Using AirEd on both files gives me similar numbers in the flight dynamics section (=1:1) and if I open up the default C208, I can see some (not everything) similarities too but I'm no pro on this, so you may want to go for another opinion here. Strange to see the Carenado having "spoiler drag" while the default has none. There are some reports about the Carenado advising people to make sure they don't touch that spoiler key (although the C208 doesn't have spoilers). I haven't tried this so far but read the topics.No big deal for me as the rest is fun and represents this plane very nicely. I personally give the Carenado a big thumbsup. The very deep systems or endless details on flight dynamics never were their bias in building planes and I honestly can live with this and enjoy their stuff.As mentioned before, you mainly get some different optics when buying the cargo plane. Would have been nice if they had included it in the basepack of course, without extra cost for missing windows.

Okie Doke, thanks for checking that out, might have to check out the Wilco/feelthere version.

Okie Doke, thanks for checking that out, might have to check out the Wilco/feelthere version.

Wilco Caravan?? :(

Wilco Caravan?? :(

Not sure what your questions is David.http://www.wilcopub.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=prod_caravan

Wilco one is showing its age a bit. There is also the smaller Caravan variant too if you are looking about, dunno what that one is like though: http://secure.simmarket.com/friendly-panels-cessna-caravan-675-executive-version-pack.phtmlCarenado one is the prettiest by far though.Al

Not sure what your questions is David.http://www.wilcopub.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=prod_caravan

Sorry Jeff I didn't heard about it.It seems to be an FS9 product though.

I'll probably buy the Carenado, because I'm not going to switch back over to FS9, there's too much to install and it's too dated.

Does it have true back lighting on the gauges? It looks like it only has flood lighting on the website pics.

You can't do wrong on buying this beauty if you like the slower and short field able planes. Carenado did a great job on the presentation and atmosphere.I didn't know about the Wilco too but she surely comes from early FS9 ages.As for the lighting, you don't get multistage there, so just on or off is available. But "on" looks good to me. Sadly, Carenado still is stuck to 2D gauges while there are already some ac around which show the beauty and fluent operation of the 3D stuff without eating your fps.No backlit operation on this C208 instruments. Each gauge has its own spotlights (not adjustable). Looks good, readability is fine, seems authentic. ADI, HSI and RMI look like an exception from this as they don't have spotlights but are lit very evenly but not like they're backlit. You can see the more uneven lighting on the engine instruments.I'm not using any ENB setup here so what you see is what you'll getIf I might suggest: Buy her, buy the new Northern Rockies stuff from Orbx too and enjoy everything about bush flying in the best possible quality. :smile:Although one would find things to "be better" on this plane, this is the best C208 available, that's for sure.