March 3, 201115 yr Does anyone happen to know if the real world CJ1+ utilizes an auto-throttle? I frequently fly the Eaglesoft CJ1+ in FSX and I use the auto-throttle function (IAS) on my Saitek multi-panel to control the speed of the aircraft during cruise mode. But in the interest of being as realistic as possible, I've been researching if the actual CJ1+ has an auto-throttle in order to fly the simulated version accordingly.I believe the real world Citation X does have an auto-throttle (although the version by Eaglesoft does not) but I haven't been able to find anything re: this particular issue with the CJ1+, even at the Cessna Aircraft Co. website. Thanks for any information.
March 4, 201115 yr I believe the II does, so I assume the CJ1 would as well. But the Citation X definitely does not have autothrottle.
March 4, 201115 yr Commercial Member Does anyone happen to know if the real world CJ1+ utilizes an auto-throttle? I frequently fly the Eaglesoft CJ1+ in FSX and I use the auto-throttle function (IAS) on my Saitek multi-panel to control the speed of the aircraft during cruise mode. But in the interest of being as realistic as possible, I've been researching if the actual CJ1+ has an auto-throttle in order to fly the simulated version accordingly.I believe the real world Citation X does have an auto-throttle (although the version by Eaglesoft does not) but I haven't been able to find anything re: this particular issue with the CJ1+, even at the Cessna Aircraft Co. website. Thanks for any information.To my knowledge the CJ1+ does not have an autothrottle. As for the Citation X... no, it doesn't. There is no Citation X on the entire planet with an autothrottle, <<removed by mod>> <<Folks - Let's not start a Wilco (or Feelthere) vs Eaglesoft war in this thread>> Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 4, 201115 yr , unless you count the one from Wilco.Was that really necessary? R9-9950X3D 32G | RTX5090 | 3T m.2 | Win11 | vkb-gf ultimate & pedals | virpil cm3 throttle | tm boeing yoke | pimax super uw | DCS
March 4, 201115 yr Author To my knowledge the CJ1+ does not have an autothrottle. As for the Citation X... no, it doesn't. There is no Citation X on the entire planet with an autothrottleThanks everyone for the info. I agree that the real CJ1 does not have an auto-throttle. In subsequent research into this matter, it appears that the Eaglesoft CJ1 has a button on the autopilot, labeled "FLC". This function, in real world aircraft, stands for "Flight Level Change" and is used to hold a certain speed on an aircraft while it is ascending or descending. Also, in real-world aircraft, while in FLC mode, the power to the engines can be adjusted as needed independently. But in the Eaglesoft CJ1, the FLC acts as a speed hold, maintaining a fixed speed while in level flight and not allowing engine power to be adjusted manually while FLC is "on". I think it was done this way to give the sim pilot a way to hold a fixed speed while in cruise mode (simulating the function of an autothrottle) and because of limitations in FSX which doesn't allow a functioning FLC to work as it does in the real world.
March 4, 201115 yr CJ1 has FADEC, no? That would effectively be your speed hold in various flight stages.
March 4, 201115 yr ...But the Citation X definitely does not have autothrottle.FWIW, the new Citation X (now called Citation Ten, TBA 2013) does.Cheers,- jahman.
March 4, 201115 yr Commercial Member Was that really necessary?I should point out that the Eaglesoft Citation X version 1 has autothrottle support, completely forgot about it so that makes two Citation X's that have autothrottle. I think however, that you're reading into my post something that isn't there (called animosity)... and in that respect, you're wrong. So... I'll ask you... is that really necessary?CJ1 has FADEC, no? That would effectively be your speed hold in various flight stages.FADEC is not a speed hold of any type. FADEC is a thrust management system, no more, no less.FWIW, the new Citation X (now called Citation Ten, TBA 2013) does.Cheers,- jahman.Yes... the Citation Ten will have autothrottles, as well as a Garmin G5000 avionics suite. However, none of those things exist yet. :( Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
March 4, 201115 yr there is no custom code in the wilco/feelThere CX for autothrottle. the plane was designed to work like the real one with the pilot controlling speed during cruise ... just like the ERJs.there is a 'cheat' that allows one to set the plane to use the FS default speed control to somewhat control the airspeed during cruise. why? because 75% of all FSers want autothrottle ability because they want to leave their computer mid-flight.-- D. Scobie, feelThere support forum moderator: https://forum.simflight.com/forum/169-feelthere-support-forums/
March 4, 201115 yr There is no Citation X on the entire planet with an autothrottle.On a 21M $ business jet, that deeply sucks...Benjamin
March 4, 201115 yr Moderator But in the Eaglesoft CJ1, the FLC acts as a speed hold, maintaining a fixed speed while in level flight and not allowing engine power to be adjusted manually while FLC is "on". I think it was done this way to give the sim pilot a way to hold a fixed speed while in cruise mode (simulating the function of an autothrottle) and because of limitations in FSX which doesn't allow a functioning FLC to work as it does in the real world.That was added in as a "cheat" for simmers to use. The forthcoming CJ1+ Extreme will not have this "cheat" available. The FLC will work as it is designed in real life. :( Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
March 4, 201115 yr Author That was added in as a "cheat" for simmers to use. The forthcoming CJ1+ Extreme will not have this "cheat" available. The FLC will work as it is designed in real life. :(Thanks, that's good news. Fortunately, I find it quite easy to maintain a desired speed with the current CJ1, without using the AP, by manually setting the throttle on my CH flight yoke, which is probably a realistic way of doing it. Although when I'm ascending or descending, I use the FLC button on the CJ1 panel (which is activated when I press the "IAS" button on my Saitek multi-panel) while, concurrently, activating the v/s function on the multi-panel.
March 5, 201115 yr On a 21M $ business jet, that deeply sucks...BenjaminAnd is also dangerous when flying near the coffin corner.Cheers,- jahman.
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