Does any real pilots or good flight sim pilots know a way to do a perfect approach and landing, ILS or VOR, in one of the boeing family FS2004??ThanksLuke.junior_pilot

Practice, practice practice! You'll NEVER have a perfect approach/landing, but they will be good. Start with the 737 and work your way up. Learn the speeds of the aircraft, follow the VASI. The best way to go is practice.:-jumpyCheck out my work: http://library.avsim.net/search.php?Search...Weik&CatID=Roothttp://vatsim.pilotmedia.fi/statusindicato...tor=OD1&a=a.jpg------------------Kenneth WeikTWVA395 / [email protected]

>Does any real pilots or good flight sim pilots know a way to>do a perfect approach and landing, ILS or VOR, in one of the>boeing family FS2004??If you are a junior pilot you should start with a Cessna Skyhawk not jump into a Boeing right away. In real life this is how you master your approaches - you start with small Cessnas. Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

Yes. That is the way to go about it. In my opinion, MSFS should lock bigger category and classes of aircraft until you have completed their checkrides built into the sim.Craig

>Yes. That is the way to go about it. In my opinion, MSFS>should lock bigger category and classes of aircraft until you>have completed their checkrides built into the sim.>>CraigMy goodness but I hope they leave the capability of letting the end user do whatever the heck he wants to do with his sim?! I'm for freedom of choice :()Noel

Yeah, I found that flying the 737 was easier to learn on because the GAs were too sensitive. I chose to learn IFR along with the VFR at the same time since I wanted to be able to understand ILS approaches and navaid navigation. After learning the heavy method along with manual landings, I then went to the smaller aircraft to fly simple VFR and IFR plans. I find my manual landings and overall simming experience improved much faster this way. Then again, I may be completely different!Chris

:-lol :-lol :-lol :-lol :-lol :-lol You suggest we should have to pass a buggy checkride to be able to advance to more sophisiticated aircraft in a SIM:-hmmm I don't think so...

LOL, I think I'll quit flying when I've made the perfect landing! After that, what's there to look forward to?

I cn only second the Practice, Practice, Practice advice. A few things to watch out for: 1. Try to get a feel for the relationship between flap settings, AOA and speed. If you get this right you will learn to control your approach very well. 2. Watch out for the ground effect. It's somewhat strong in the sim and will trow you above the glideslope at about 1000' AGL. 3. When flying heavies, the altitude callouts in the better cockpits are really helpful! Practice a few touch and gos and you will get a feel for when to flare and how much to set it down smoothly using the altitude callouts for guidance. 4. For a smooth touchdown it can be helpful to slightly underfly the the glideslope right before reaching the threshold. Otherwise you risk going long.Misha

Power for altitude, pitch for airspeed on the approach. A satbilized approach from farther out in the begining will get you where you want to be on touch down. If you'll watch jets landing at your closest INTN'L airport you'll see they are in a profile that is very consistent (nose up, on glide slope and speed) and it usually takes little work to slightly flare to the touchdown. Do it a couple of hundred times and you'll get the hang of it.It's different flying Boeing's vs cessnas. I know most of us who have done both will tell you that landing a 727, Cheyene, or anything bigger is easier than landing a Cessna. I fly our 172 all the time and my landings aren't that great feeling, but they're about as good as you can do in a 172. Just goes to show that it may be close to perfect, but it never feels that way in a skyhawk!So when you can land the 172 consitently where you want it, move up, just like the others say, but remember the Boeings land much differently than the 172.;-) Hope this helps. (we've all been there at one point):+

I have completed the 737 checkride and passed it. Even though I am only 15 years old (explains the junior_pilot) I still know a lot about airplanes and how to fly them. The plane I usually fly is B737-400 with FS2004. The main think I want to know is what speed I should be at different points, what degree of flaps I should have at different points and any other tips. I also want to try and learn how to fly the 747 or 777 well. Which one do you thin kI should learn first. Are there any checkrides for the planes or is it possible to just swap the plane in the 737 checkride to a 747 or 777. I don't really like flying cessnas or small planes becuase I find they are too light and less controllable than the boeings. I also want to get the Flight 1 Dreamfleet Beoing 737-400 for FS2004 when it comes out. Do you think that is a good idea and is it possible to buy a newer version of the B737 (e.g. 737-500, 600, etc) as a flight sim plane that is like the Dreamfleet one (i mean very accurate and high-tech).

Good for you. You might also consider the PMDG's 737-600/700 which is already available (for FS2004) and is considered the absolutely best 737 PC-based sim around. PMDG forum is next door...Michael J.

Having a separate throttle is really helpful. You will end up making a lot of small power changes on most approaches. Having a separate throttle makes getting your head around power management a whole lot simpler.

I agree about having a very precise throttle control. I am using the Saitek Cyborg 3D stick which has a wonderful throttle control with long throw. It is very precise. The upcoming CH quadrant stack should be even better.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

Yea one of the things that helps alot is to go and read the specs on the plane.. their optimal approach speed and flaps