July 16, 201114 yr I just pulled the trigger on a 2600K and the Asus Z68 "-V Pro". I only jumped because I found the $210 MOBO for $130... Some of you may remember I got my current sig system (i7 960) because I got the CPU for dirt cheap 7 months ago.I am suffering some intense buyer's remorse, as I skipped on the Oshkosh trip this year. I'm hoping to see some nice gains in performance with FSX as I've yet to see anyone that made the same "sidegrade" :Confused: I'm making. Wish me luck and opinions/critiques are welcomed!EDIT: Sorry about the misleading title. That was supposed to be in the subject line. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
July 16, 201114 yr Newegg open box? Corey Meeks FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W
July 16, 201114 yr I just pulled the trigger on a 2600K and the Asus Z68 "-V Pro". I only jumped because I found the $210 MOBO for $130... Some of you may remember I got my current sig system (i7 960) because I got the CPU for dirt cheap 7 months ago.I am suffering some intense buyer's remorse, as I skipped on the Oshkosh trip this year. I'm hoping to see some nice gains in performance with FSX as I've yet to see anyone that made the same "sidegrade" :Confused: I'm making. Wish me luck and opinions/critiques are welcomed!EDIT: Sorry about the misleading title. That was supposed to be in the subject line. There there Zack, ssssshhhhhh! (humming lullaby) :Whistle: Everything will be alright, I promise! :Party: Kind regards,
July 16, 201114 yr Author Newegg open box?No sir. Friend with a sealed box! My lucky day! Same friend who sold me the 960, actually.There there Zack, ssssshhhhhh! (humming lullaby) :Whistle: Everything will be alright, I promise! :Party: Kind regards,Lol! I guess it does seem as though I'm in need of vindication for these purchases.I know you made a similar upgrade and haven't regretted it. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
July 16, 201114 yr It's not a sidegrade, you'll find out soon enough Zach :smile:Why not the 2500K in the end? did you get a good deal on that 2600K too?
July 16, 201114 yr Author No. Unfortunately not, besides free shipping with Newegg. I've come to terms with my macho side and concede that I'll pay the extra premium to indulge that tendency. Most of the time...I will add I accidentally checked the "rushed shipping" so I feel like a real arse. Especially considering it's the freakin' weekend! ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
July 16, 201114 yr Lol, can't blame you for that. I got my 2600K simply because there was no stock of 2500K here at that time and I just couldn't wait a couple of weeks heheYou should be able to sell your Sabertooth X58 + I7 960 for a good price to fund the new parts. All in all it may turn out to be a cheap upgrade
July 16, 201114 yr I just pulled the trigger on a 2600K and the Asus Z68 "-V Pro". I only jumped because I found the $210 MOBO for $130... Some of you may remember I got my current sig system (i7 960) because I got the CPU for dirt cheap 7 months ago.I am suffering some intense buyer's remorse, as I skipped on the Oshkosh trip this year. I'm hoping to see some nice gains in performance with FSX as I've yet to see anyone that made the same "sidegrade" :Confused: I'm making. Wish me luck and opinions/critiques are welcomed!EDIT: Sorry about the misleading title. That was supposed to be in the subject line. I did the similar "sidegrade". Went from 920 OCed to 4.0 to 2600K OCed to 5.0. Yes, it's quite a performance boost, but it's not that of a huge wow. For me, it was more 285GTX to 580GTX.All in all it was a big surprise yeah... but you gotta make the 4.8 or 5.0 to really see the difference.
July 16, 201114 yr I would like to ask a question that I believe is relevant.Those of you that went from a 4ghz processor to a i7 2600K or 2500K to 4.8 and above, plus also upgraded your card to at gtx 570 or 580. In the worst case scenario, how much did fps increase?Example: If you were getting 15 fps with the worst possible scenerio, what are you getting now? MSFS
July 16, 201114 yr I would like to ask a question that I believe is relevant.Those of you that went from a 4ghz processor to a i7 2600K or 2500K to 4.8 and above, plus also upgraded your card to at gtx 570 or 580. In the worst case scenario, how much did fps increase?Example: If you were getting 15 fps with the worst possible scenerio, what are you getting now?This is what I got when I upgraded to sandy bridge, still with the GTX460 and 4GB of CL6 RAMPMDG 747 in the VC, UK2000 EGLL, REX2, GEX, UTX, MyTraffic X, sliders maxed out except water (Low 2.x) and 100% airline traffic. BP=0I5 750 @ 4GHz 1600 CL6Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 7214, 300000, 15, 35, 24.047I7 2600K @ 5GHz 1600 CL6Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 9956, 300000, 22, 47, 33.187
July 16, 201114 yr I would like to ask a question that I believe is relevant.Those of you that went from a 4ghz processor to a i7 2600K or 2500K to 4.8 and above, plus also upgraded your card to at gtx 570 or 580. In the worst case scenario, how much did fps increase?Example: If you were getting 15 fps with the worst possible scenerio, what are you getting now?Hi DJJose,The best answer is in the objective FSX Benchmark 11 tests where it clearly indicates that, with exceptions, fast Bloomfields run in the low to mid 30s FPS and Sandy Bridges in the high 40s. It could probably be rounded and sanded off to determine that there is roughly a 15 + FPS to be had, which is a 50% increase, more or less. That would be my personal experience too, making it well worth it for me to upgrade from the i7 930 @ 4.3GHz. However, my FSX ran smooth before, and it runs smooth now. But, like I said earlier, for some the hardware seems to matter not, for FSX never runs right for them anyway. Too bad, because I see Sandy Bridge as an FSXer's dream come true.Kind regards,
July 16, 201114 yr Comming from a QX9650 @ 4.32MHz, DDR2 rams @ 1200MHz 5-5-4-18 and a GTX 295 ocfu I also saw a difference when I upgraded to what I have now, I think the main problems for some peoples (not all) is that they don't have a well balanced rig and by that I mean voltage and component, passing OCCT is good but it does not mean that it will be 100% the absolute best settings for FSX, talking about absolut let me pour myself a drink.I ran OCCT (with the spec. in my sig.) and I passed the stress test but as soon as I ran FSX I was not happy, stutterings + other stuff....so I started testing FSX with what was stable running OCCT, I started by raising some voltage one at the time and tested FSX, some higher voltage did not have any effect on FSX and other improved the smoothness of FSX...exp: CPU voltage at X passed OCCT stress test, tried FSX and I did not like it so I raised the CPU voltage a notch or two and FSX was running better.I did that to all voltage including the memory voltage and the QPI/VTT blah blah blah you get the point, so if I got no increse in perf. or smoothness the voltage stayed at what it was when passing OCCT stress test and if I saw some improvement by raising it I left it there and that's how I made FSX run better for me, OCCT is where I start testing FSX but I don't stop there.Better and faster hardware is always welcome for FSX, some peoples are saying that Sandy Bridge is the holy grail for FSX ....I've read the same thing when the QX6850 hit the market 3 > 4 years ago, in 3 years looking back at the Sandy Brridge we will ask ourself how in hell were we able to run FSX now then we have DDR4 memory, PCI-e 3.0 and a 10 core 4.2GHz CPU @ default.....:He He:
July 16, 201114 yr Author Better and faster hardware is always welcome for FSX, some peoples are saying that Sandy Bridge is the holy grail for FSX ....I've read the same thing when the QX6850 hit the market 3 > 4 years ago, in 3 years looking back at the Sandy Brridge we will ask ourself how in hell were we able to run FSX now then we have DDR4 memory, PCI-e 3.0 and a 10 core 4.2GHz CPU @ default.....:He He:True. That's part of the excitement in this hobby for me! :Nerd: ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
July 17, 201114 yr What FPS difference exactly I had, I can't really remember. But there is one big difference between old [email protected]/GTX285 system and the new [email protected] system with GTX580: on 920 I was able to run BP=0. On 2600K, I can't. Sim crashes with it. I don't know if it's up the driver, I tried the older one, but also Bojote said in some posts that on faster hardware and GPUs, you won't be able to run BP=0 successfully. It is still a major booster though.So comparing both without BP=0, and the new GPU, I had some boost of 25%. Which, seriously, isn't that much as we are talking FSX: running at 20FPS or running the same scenery at 25FPS... I got in some sceneries and situations up to 50% more performance, which would still show instead 20fps, up to 30fps... with tendencies often to fall below 30.See what I'm talking here? We are holding for branches here, small numbers... it's all peanuts if you ask me. We need big numbers: scenery doing originally 40fps, and with a new chip 60... that is a great number.
July 17, 201114 yr What FPS difference exactly I had, I can't really remember. But there is one big difference between old [email protected]/GTX285 system and the new [email protected] system with GTX580: on 920 I was able to run BP=0. On 2600K, I can't. Sim crashes with it. I don't know if it's up the driver, I tried the older one, but also Bojote said in some posts that on faster hardware and GPUs, you won't be able to run BP=0 successfully. It is still a major booster though.So comparing both without BP=0, and the new GPU, I had some boost of 25%. Which, seriously, isn't that much as we are talking FSX: running at 20FPS or running the same scenery at 25FPS... I got in some sceneries and situations up to 50% more performance, which would still show instead 20fps, up to 30fps... with tendencies often to fall below 30.See what I'm talking here? We are holding for branches here, small numbers... it's all peanuts if you ask me. We need big numbers: scenery doing originally 40fps, and with a new chip 60... that is a great number.Hi Word Not Allowed. On my setup I run BP=0 continuously without problems. I am running at 4.6ghz though...Have same video card (Zotac). The MB is different but I've been doing tests with a P8P67Deluxe and BP=0 was working fine. The video drivers are not the issue I think. I have been updating the last 4-5 updates of Nvidia drivers and BP=0 worked ok.Another mystery.Pierre Pierre I9 14900K 5.5 64gb ram 6800 RTX5090 Asus Strix Gaming E
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