December 20, 200322 yr Hi, I have for this moment a P4 2.53GHz, 512DDR, Geforce 4600Ti, 120 GB Harddrive. What is the best thing to upgrade? Price? Well, I was thinking around 340USD. What do you recommend?CheersJohan "Whats VNAV?!?!" Adolfsson
December 20, 200322 yr Ah yes, and OC that CPU of yours to 2.89 (150 FSB, 2.650V power).Word Not Allowed
December 20, 200322 yr I was thinking of getting the Radeon 9600 XT 256 MB DDR and a extra 512DDR RAM...Is it worth the cost?CheersJohan "Whats VNAV?!?!" Adolfsson
December 20, 200322 yr Well, dunno how GeForce performs, but Radeon will give you great looking FS, with (almost) no impact on the FPS when using AA or AF. And probably better FPS (my GUESS is about 5-10fps), but I can't say for sure.More RAM will make the FS smoother, less PF usage, less jerky. If you had enough RAM (1GB or more) you could possibly turn off PF (which is risky, but possible).Word Not Allowed
December 20, 200322 yr Be careful with Radeon although - they need GOOD PSU, and compatible motherboard.Word Not Allowed
December 20, 200322 yr Just installed a 9600XT and I can tell you FS is for sure all about CPU, power power power :-) I went from a geforce 2 mx400( I know a dog card), and all that I got was really stunning graphics. Frame rates around the 3d clouds and with all the hype about AA/AF was no better. still very jerky. So I have backed off the AA stuff and the frame rates are more acceptable. Gets down to high teens around busy airports with AI. The DX9 support really made a difference with the special effects,water textures etc. Cant complain about that.I have a P4/1.9, with 1GB RAM, so if I were you go to the top dog CPU if you can and the 9800XT and treat yourself for Christmas.hope that helps.Bill
December 20, 200322 yr I would overclock the processor to FSB=155 MHz and run the Ti4600 with the official Nvidia 52.16 drivers and force 2xAA and 4xAF..Run the monitor at 1280x960x32, and then: go fly!Total cost $0.. Bert
December 20, 200322 yr Assuming you have WinXP or 2K, RAM should take a priority. I would also wait a few months to see where the CPU market is going and also determine where if your mobo can support a much faster CPU. 2.53 is reasonable now, but I don't think you would see much of an FPS increase going to 3.0 or 3.2 if your mobo can handle it. While the graphics card efficiency is very important, it all falls back on the CPU.So get some RAM (total 1 GB) for a few bucks and save your pennies to get a mobo screamer as new CPUs come out and prices fall on todays existing screamers.After you get a much faster CPU, then perhaps a newly designed graphics card will be available with appropriate drivers to take advantage of it.In your post, you did not state what mobo you are using which would affect recommendations.
December 20, 200322 yr Author While the graphics card efficiency is very>important, it all falls back on the CPU.I don't see it quite that way. I think it's always a case of leapfrog--in some systems, at some resolutions and AA/AF settings, the video card is the main limiter. In other situations, clearly the CPU is the limiter. And this situation is completely situation-dependent on the same machine. Given heavy duty clouds n autogen, I notice 4xAA on my Radeon 9700 chokes a bit for certain at my 1600 x res of choice, indicating the video card is now the limiter. Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
December 25, 200322 yr i'm 5 days late 2 this party; do u have a problem with the current setup? or have u already bought something?
December 25, 200322 yr Nope, didn't by anything yet! But I am going to, don't what to upgrade still :D More RAM......I think at this point.CheersJohan "Whats VNAV?!?!" Adolfsson
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