Thanks Bert - I looked on Youtube, but couldn't find any vids of the RXP Gauges you're showing there (which look great) - assume they're smooth? (X-Plane smooth?) It matches what I'm flying close enough... what you're showing would be just fine. tutmeister - thanks, I'll try that out.

The baytower Vans has 3d guages, but no RXP integration(yet)

I should mention you can integrate the RXP GNS.So if you have a GNS530 license by all means use RXP.The issue is inputs are limited to the 2D pop-up at this point (unless you have a reg'd FSUIPC).That said a 7's not really an ideal aircraft for the OP's mission.A better choice for an IFR trainer would be more docile and dynamically-stable.And the 7's IFR panel emphasizes GPS navigation over radio.Danny

Thanks Bert - I looked on Youtube, but couldn't find any vids of the RXP Gauges you're showing there (which look great) - assume they're smooth? (X-Plane smooth?) It matches what I'm flying close enough... what you're showing would be just fine. www.reality-xp.com Look for flightline T and N gauges sets. Yes, they are smooth and very nicely modeled.. best there is IMHO.C172 edits... [VCockpit01]size_mm=512,512pixel_size=1024,1024texture=$C172s_1background_color=0,0,0gauge00=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 69,457, 20, 19gauge01=rxpfln!VOR1, 259, 1,140,140gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 45,456, 20, 21gauge03=rxpfln!ADF, 259,283,145,145gauge04=Cessna172!EGT_Fuel_Flow, 400,109,107,107gauge05=Cessna172!Fuel, 400, 1,107,107gauge06=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 405,325,107,107gauge07=Cessna!OMI_Lights, 0,456, 44, 24gauge08=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 405,217,107,107gauge09=Cessna!Annunciator, 0,481, 99, 25//gauge10=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 100,456, 56, 39gauge10=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 100,454, 56, 41gauge11=rxpfln!VOR2, 259,142,140,140gauge12=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0, 258, 50gauge13=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 51,258, 95gauge14=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0,147,258, 95gauge15=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0,243,258, 66gauge16=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0,310,258, 66gauge17=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0,377,258, 78gauge18=n_number_plaque!n_number_plaque, 188,468,89,25[VCockpit02]size_mm=512,512//pixel_size=512,512pixel_size=1024,1024texture=$C172s_2background_color=0,0,0gauge00=rxpFLT!Gyro, 0, 0,163,162gauge01=rxpFLT!TurnCoordinator, 164, 0,158,158gauge02=rxpFLT!Attitude, 323, 0,158,158gauge03=rxpFLT!Altimeter, 0,163,158,156gauge04=rxpFLT!Airspeed, 164,159,155,155gauge05=rxpFLT!VerticalSpeed, 323,159,156,157gauge06=APBK!Autopilot, 0,321,258, 77gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer, 260,318,143,143gauge08=Cessna172!Clock, 0,400, 86, 86gauge09=Cessna!Flaps, 88,400, 78,105NB.. gauge 06 above is whatever autopilot you like best... this happens to be the latest Carenado autopilot.You can stay with the FSX default if you like it OK..

Danny - I do have their 430, but no, that's not quite what I'm looking for ;) Bert - thanks again. Looks like the way to to. RegardsAndrew