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anybody else have fatal error in PMDG DLL on load up

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HelloI have this problem often with the PMDG 737NGX, crashes when loading so have to go and remove the last situation from the fsx.cfg and then load up the default flight file, I can then load up the file that contains the NGX, very annoying. After re saving the situation if I am lucking I can load straight to that situation from FSX a couple of times then the same issue over and over, happened a little bit before SP1 now 90 percent of the time unfortunately

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hey Paul CH yoke, Ch rudder pedals, CH throttle quadrant, 90% configured through FSX full version of FSUIPC, I might add only ever happens with the PMDG NGX

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Try loading the NGX with your Controllers disconnected just as a test to see if the crash stops. I had that issue with my x52 pro and saitek pedals and disconnecting them while loading NGX fixed it. But so far have not had to do that anymore with SP1.

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Hi PaulYes it is my controllers but when I unplug them and replug them in FSX does not detect them, what was your solution

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Got a similar issue. After sp1 and 6700 addon when i load in the flight the pmdg 737 fsx crashes and the problem is pmdg_dll version 1.0Then i tried to uninstall and reinstall the whole pmdg 737 but i always get the same problem. Help me flying this bird.I've win 7 64 bit, saitek pro flight yoke, throttle quadrant and rudder pedal. Fsx sp2.Wish you all the best!Gino---I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=45.401054,11.868347

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I'm hesitant to chirp in here as I was crucified for raising similar problems after installing SP1 on a previous thread....however...I had numerous fatal crashes in FSX after installing SP1 but found it was related to saving the 737NGX as the default aircraft. I don't believe it is related to the service pack as I had not tried to default it with the intiial release. Since then, I have generic FSX aircraft as my default and change afte FSX comes up. I've had no problems and am extremely pleased with the product. At this point I don't want to tempt fate by including the the NGX as my defaul arcraft....Why spoil the fun!Richard

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Try to load and spawn a default plane first, then load your NGX, if I do this, no errors appearing while loading the NGX...

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I have the same problem, what baffles me is that it worked perfectly for 3 days with the same controllers., even loading the 600 and 700 directly. I have never disconected anything and it worked fine. Now even loading up another aircraft first don't fix the problem. I haven't change anything in the computer or install anything. It tries to load the aircraft I can see it and then BOOM!Fatal error...works fine with all other planes. Praying.gif Please help!

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raised a ticket with PMDG this is an FSX issue nothing can be done about this, they suggest only to load default situation then switch to the 737

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Who told you that Wayne? I've been tracking this issue since release and none of the programmers have told me it's an FSX issue that we can't fix... We just have never been able to reproduce it ourselves on the debug machines is the thing. I have some tests I can run on your machine actually if you can reliably repeat the crash. (I'm referring to the type of crash that loading a default plane, shutting down the sim, then restarting and loading the NGX fixes)

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DLL files are shared alot with in FSX, and sometimes if your running something and there is another programme or another app that is using the same app this causes the crash,. A while ago i did run a few tests myself to my capability and found that following these steps did help.http://forum.avsim.net/topic/267596-attn-fatal-error-problems-in-fsx/ There is another solution i will type it up bare with meI never get any fatal error at all now..

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Ryan maybe I misinterpreted the below response, either way the support from PMDG was great and I was just happy to get a response so i can move onto flying the beauty you guys createdWayne,There is a known issue within FSX that actually can cause the type of CTD issues you descirbe when loading an Add on complex aircraft as the default flight in FSX. It was an issue that we attempted to address with the ACES team at Microsoft before the release of the SP2 update for FSX but we were unsuccessful in getting the fix implemented prior to its release. The only known work around is to always load FSX with a defalt aircraft in a default airport (Air Trike at Friday Harbor for example) and then select your add on aircraft from the select an aircraft screen. We make this specific recommendation in the introductory section of the manual that came with the product to help users avoid the type of behavior you are seeing. Please make sure you leave your default flight set to a Default aircraft at a Default airport and the issue should be corrected.The issue of Controllers causing a CTD on load is unfortunately an issue caused by hardware that exhibits abnormally high "Noise" feedback. Most users who have High Noise producing hardware have found that simply disconnecting it while the NGX loads and the plugging it back in corrects the issue and allows the user to use the hardware. You can try increasing your null zones on the hardware to see if that helps reduce the noise being sent to FSX but most users have simply moved on to more stable hardware.RegardsPaul GollnickManager Customer SupportPrecision Manuals Development Group

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RyanI can absolutely reproduce this CTD on FSX startup, I am not 100% sure but it may be an issue with FSX and my CH controllers as I did pull all the controllers out and it did load straight up but only tried this once, the downside was that when i plugged the controllers back in they were not working, sorry if my post was not accurate or misleading

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Can I just add to experiencing this crash too. I got it originally in Windows 7 Pro (x64) and now in XP(x64), I changed back to XP after being sick and tired of getting Black screens of death despite having the uiautomation.dll and following every single tip out there. XP does have the odd one and odd white one but far more stable. Anyway the other night I couldnt even load the NGX into any flight, either starting a brand new flight or loading a saved one. May I add that my default flight still remained as the trike and friday harbour so thats out of the equation for the root cause of this fatal error. I couldnt even load the default flight then change to the NGX, it would hang at 0% load then CTD. I attempted to get it working about 1/2 dozen times, rebooted, backed up my fsx.cfg and deleted it allowing a fresh one to be created but it still crashed. After reading this thread I unplugged my Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System and it all loaded fine, I was able to reproduce this crash by trying to load a flight again with the controllers connected. The odd time it would load but when it keeps crashing it will definately load if I disconnect them so something is causing the DLL conflict

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I can absolutely reproduce this CTD on FSX startup, I am not 100% sure but it may be an issue with FSX and my CH controllers as I did pull all the controllers out and it did load straight up but only tried this once, the downside was that when i plugged the controllers back in they were not working, sorry if my post was not accurate or misleading
If your using FSUIPC for your Controllers and you disconnect them while loading the NGX of course they are not going to work. The solution is to load up FSUIPC once your at the gate, test a button or two and/or go to the Calibration Tab and test one of your Axis. This usally solves it for me. I think by going into FSUIPC it refreshes after you disconnected your controllers and then all is fine again.If that does not work for you then instead of disconnecting your controllers load up the 747-400X at the gate and then from there load the NGX. That also worked for me.

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Same problem here and followed the guide to unplug controllers. I unplugged a ST290pro and the Chpropedals and got the PMDG to load up and fly a bit but problems continued. Got all to work once when all was plugged back in but that was short lived. During a particular trouble shooting step (i unplugged only the chpropedals) things locked up in FSX and I had to terminate and reboot. Upon restart, I got a "problem with 3rd party software, FSUIPC4 DLL, verison 4.5. this could be a clueI will continue to see if I can isoluate and resolve but it looks like I'm going to park this baby in the hanger and wait on adding the 600 until this issue gets resolved. This is unfortunate as this computer I purchase only for FSX and I upgraded just because of this (I have MD11 that I have enjoyed for some time on a Pentium 4 computer). I'm keeping my pentium for all my other computer uses and this computer uncluttered only for fs. System is Asus I7 2600 8mb GTX560Ti Win7 64bit ksdf

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It looks like the Saitek ST290pro and PMDG 737 dont get along... at least in my case. Hay I already spent a ton of money on this, one joystick is not going to stop me!.

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Hi i get a CTD when i fly the ngx. It seems to be when i right click and change the view. I have SP2 installed and am running i52500k. Regards Chris

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I found the solution to my problem (that I only have when my Saitek st290pro is plugged in. I simply removed ALL controller assignments within Fsx and use only assignments made through fsuipc. Probably a good idea anyway but I did not have this issue with other aircraft. With this no more crash on selecting the aircraft or when ending flight.

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I have the same problem and have FSUIPC version 4.7b. There seem to be a clean up issue. At one time I was able to load NGX, but afterward doing so again will cause FSX crash, and nothing I do afterward will allow me to select any NGX plane again. I did not have time yet to use controllers via FSUIPC, so I don't think the problem is there. I started with default aircraft (the ultra light), default aiport, then select any NGX planes will just crash. I never have this problem for any other PMDG planes or any other planes in my hangar.

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Just select and load a default aircraft (like C172), wait about 30 seconds e chosso NGX bird. You will experience no more 737dll crashes.Lt. CDR. Catão

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I am having the exact same issue with the new hotfix for pmdg. I am running win7 and have done two clean installs of the OS. hopefully a fix soon!!

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