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Hello all,So I just upgraded my hardware and i have the following system:CPU: i5-2500k @ 4.6GHzMobo: Asus P8Z68-V LXMemory: G. Skill DDR3 1600 (12800)GPU: MSI N550GTX-TI 1GB OCPSU: Cool Master 700W Silent ProOS: Win 7 64-bitFSX: SP2Add-Ons:REX 2GEX (update USA, Canada and Europe)UTX ( upto date)FSDT OhareFSDT JFKAerosoft Chicago , Las Vegas , Heathrow, Indianapolis, Munich and ParisFly Tampa: midway, boston, tampa, st. maartenAerosoft Airbus XWilco 777iFly 737ngQW 757CLS 767Tweaks: Bojotes FSX.cfg, External Frame limiterNow to the issue, I get major stutter in my flight, the graphics look great and the aircraft flies normal but the ground textures seem to either load to fast or to slow because there is slight pause and then it goes which is causing some major stutter and my FPS are jumping from 80 down to 10. I dont know if anyone has seen this and if there is a tweak for the config file that will help me. Any advice is appreciated, if someone wants to look at my fsx.cfg please let me know ill post it.Thank you in advance,Arslan Dautovic

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Arslan,It's really strange you having this issue with your FSX considering the equiptment you have. Are you having this issue everywhere you fly or only in certain areas? Keep in mind that "maxing" your settings within FSX is simply unnecessary-- especially traffic...This will bite your cpu at most.--- Did you correctly set your external frame-limiter to 30? Make sure you set your internal frames to unlimited within FSX.--- Don't use to high of a screen resolution; anything above 1680 by 1050 is just asking for more burden on your cpu.--- Make sure you dragment your HD with a good tool such as O & O Defrag.--- Finally, I suggest you do not OC your video card; it gives you NO better performance- only more unwanted heat!And many other factors could be involved...Good luckJohnny

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Start by limiting the fps internally in FSX, say at 30.For many, that works better than the external fps limiter..Secondly, try to dial back the scenery detail a bit, starting with traffic (freeway traffic=0 for example)Find the best settings for you and your system.If not... start over with the standard FSX.cfg (without the tweaks)


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Arslan,It's really strange you having this issue with your FSX considering the equiptment you have. Are you having this issue everywhere you fly or only in certain areas? Keep in mind that "maxing" your settings within FSX is simply unnecessary-- especially traffic...This will bite your cpu at most.--- Did you correctly set your external frame-limiter to 30? Make sure you set your internal frames to unlimited within FSX.--- Don't use to high of a screen resolution; anything above 1680 by 1050 is just asking for more burden on your cpu.--- Make sure you dragment your HD with a good tool such as O & O Defrag.--- Finally, I suggest you do not OC your video card; it gives you NO better performance- only more unwanted heat!And many other factors could be involved...Good luckJohnny
Johnny,thanks for your info. It does not matter where I fly it is the same the lag is there. -ONe thing that helped is when i start FSX without the External Frame limiter it reduced the stutter about by half, so that was one issue.-My screen res is 1600x1200x16 so its right on. -I have O&O defrag and i did the complete/access which found 6.46gb of defragged files and after it defraged i had 0.89gb of defraged files so thats good.- I was thinking about putting my GPU back to default anyways.So i just dont know what it could be now, I mean my system is optimal for FSX and to have some really nice flight experiences but no am stuck. Before this i ran AMD Phenom II x4 965BE @ 4.02GHz and had beautiful FPS but now its &@($*. Well hope i get somewhere.Thank youArslan
Start by limiting the fps internally in FSX, say at 30.For many, that works better than the external fps limiter..Secondly, try to dial back the scenery detail a bit, starting with traffic (freeway traffic=0 for example)Find the best settings for you and your system.If not... start over with the standard FSX.cfg (without the tweaks)
Good points you bring up, I was gonna try limiting my FPS internally and all. I just wish someone would show me their settings for the similar system hardware as I have.

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Hi Arslan,-My screen res is 1600x1200x16 so its right on.Why 16 bits only, FSX and your GTX550 work better with 32 bits : 1600x1200x32and don't forget to use correct settings in NVidia inspector .Hope this helps Pierre

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Arslan:

I just wish someone would show me their settings for the similar system hardware as I have.
Bert P. has it right, Arslan: You wanted a running cfg - here it is.Chipmunk.cfg : Only the important parameters and mods are shown:- 4.8 gig and a 580GTX, with the important changes in bold print. Most of this is an example of what is possible at speeds above 4.5 gig with a good vidio card.[bufferPools]UsePools=1PoolSize=8388608RejectThreshold=262144 // 131072//PoolSize=0[GRAPHICS]AC_SELF_SHADOW=1AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=0ALLOW_SHADER_30=1SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=26ForceFullScreenVSync=1COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1D3D10=0EFFECTS_QUALITY=2GROUND_SHADOWS=0HIGHMEMFIX=1IMAGE_QUALITY=0LANDING_LIGHTS=0NUM_LIGHTS=8SHADER_OPTIMIZE=1SHADER_PARTIAL_PRECISION=1STALE_BUFFER_THRESHOLD=24See_Self=1TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024TEXTURE_QUALITY=3Text_Scroll=1SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693458458SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693458458[sOUND]AmbientUI=0AmbientUIMusic=FSX01AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}SOUND=1SOUND_FADER1=0.450000SOUND_FADER2=0.450000SOUND_FADER3=0.450000SOUND_FADER4=-0.760000SOUND_LOD=1SOUND_QUALITY=2UISound=0VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}[CONTROLS]Controls_Current=ChipmunkControls_Default=Chipmunkstick_sensitivity_mode=0[TrafficManager] // I'm showing high traffic here, but I do lower it at KSEA, as it is the MAJOR frame killer. To get the system sorted - all traffic should be turned off.AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=1 AirlineDensity=14ChangeTime=4.000000FreewayDensity=14GADensity=38IFROnly=0LeisureBoatsDensity=15ShipsAndFerriesDensity=15TransitionTime=4.000000[Weather]AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3DETAILED_CLOUDS=1DisableTurbulence=0DownloadWindsAloft=0DynamicWeather=2MaxGustRampSpeed=200MaxGustTime=500MaxVarRampSpeed=75MaxVarTime=50MinGustRampSpeed=1MinGustTime=10MinVarRampSpeed=10MinVarTime=5THERMAL_VISUALS=0TurbulenceScale=1.000000WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.comWeatherServerPort=80WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1[Misc]Com_Rate=7[Main]DisablePreload=0 HideMenuFullscreen=1HideMenuNormal=0Location=1288,7,2552,967,\\.\DISPLAY1Maximized=1SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\AirplanesSimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\RotorcraftSimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehiclesSimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\BoatsSimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\AnimalsSimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\MiscSimObjectPaths.6=MyTraffic\AircraftUser Objects=Airplane, HelicopterFIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.18 // for smoothnessProcSpeed=15505PerfBucket=7[Trusted]F:\Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.ukuknabtzrubronarhhcteewtniikibiuraleqcn=1F:\Flight Simulator X\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_7S3\Scenery\ObjectFlow_7S3.dll.awhqbeekerhlqbkhqinzzuowekiqkloqailcubhr=1F:\Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.oztoeziqnehbluzhuaukcleanhlqqztwwqucuwqq=1F:\Flight Simulator X\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_2WA1\Scenery\Objectflow_2WA1.dll.aqeltanhtawouihiaqkqbruwrqlkzrecteoculqe=1E:\AA_FS Sources\Autothumbnail\autothumbnail2\Autothumbnail\Autothumbnail.exe.ibhotnlczcribiziclzznlqrtiirreiakilncrui=1F:\Flight Simulator\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.oztoeziqnehbluzhuaukcleanhlqqztwwqucuwqq=1F:\Flight Simulator\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_1WA6\Scenery\ObjectFlow_1WA6.dll.aqeltanhtawouihiaqkqbruwrqlkzrecteoculqe=1C:\Program Files (x86)\EZCA\EZCA.exe.uztkiuwoenabkunbcbuqarucbwuichekcuizzhzo=1F:\Flight Simulator\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_KBVS\Scenery\Objectflow_KBVS.dll.aqeltanhtawouihiaqkqbruwrqlkzrecteoculqe=1F:\Flight Simulator\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_2WA1\Scenery\Objectflow_2WA1.dll.aqeltanhtawouihiaqkqbruwrqlkzrecteoculqe=1F:\Flight Simulator\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_AA_74S\Scenery\ObjectFlow_74S.dll.aqeltanhtawouihiaqkqbruwrqlkzrecteoculqe=1F:\Flight Simulator\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.lhqcalceatctilaaehclanwzqilwkiqqionzuakk=1F:\Flight Simulator\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.nqzrzlheqnuztraknenbwobnantieaqzeurutrkr=1[uSERINTERFACE]DisplayFuelAsWeight=0Map_Orientation=2OpenATCOnCreate=0PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1PageID=1SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0SITUATION=c:\users\pj\documents\flight simulator x files\Chippie at Bowerman.FLTSelectAircraftManufacturer=AllSelectAircraftPublisher=AllSelectAircraftType=AllShowAllACPaintSchemes=1[Display]BLOOM_EFFECTS=0RUNWAY_LIGHTS_APPROACH_SCALAR=0.9RUNWAY_LIGHTS_STROBE_SCALAR=0.9RUNWAY_LIGHTS_SURFACE_SCALAR=0.9RUNWAY_LIGHTS_VASI_SCALAR=0.9SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=60 TextureMaxLoad=6 // use 30 ONLY when running 'unlimited' frames.TransitionTime=4.000000UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30 // The Limiter_02 makes very little, or no difference at 4.5 gig.WideViewAspect=True[JOBSCHEDULER]AffinityMask=12[TERRAIN]AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4DETAIL_TEXTURE=1LOD_RADIUS=4.500000 // for system setup, use 3.5MAX_DETAIL_TEXTURE_LEVEL=21MESH_COMPLEXITY=100MESH_RESOLUTION=24MIN_DETAIL_TEXTURE_LEVEL=21SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2 TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1400TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2000TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29WATER_EFFECTS=6[sCENERY]DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5LENSFLARE=0MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0]Mode=3840x1024x32TriLinear=1


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Here is mine, just as an example:// Aug 2011:// Added AffinityMask=14, Highmemfix=1, set LOD_radius=5.5 and TBM=80// Oct 2011: UsePools=0 or 30000//[bufferPools]UsePools=0//UsePools=1//PoolSize=30000[GRAPHICS]AC_SELF_SHADOW=0AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=0COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1D3D10=0EFFECTS_QUALITY=2GROUND_SHADOWS=0HIGHMEMFIX=1LANDING_LIGHTS=1NUM_LIGHTS=8See_Self=1TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024TEXTURE_QUALITY=3Text_Scroll=1SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672IMAGE_QUALITY=0[TrafficManager]AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0AirlineDensity=15FreewayDensity=0GADensity=15IFROnly=0LeisureBoatsDensity=32ShipsAndFerriesDensity=34[Display]ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255BLOOM_EFFECTS=0ChangeTime=4.000000InfoBrakesEnable=TrueInfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255InfoOverspeedEnable=TrueInfoParkingBrakesEnable=TrueInfoPauseEnable=TrueInfoSlewEnable=TrueInfoStallEnable=TrueInfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255RUNWAY_LIGHTS_APPROACH_SCALAR=0.5RUNWAY_LIGHTS_STROBE_SCALAR=0.5RUNWAY_LIGHTS_SURFACE_SCALAR=0.7RUNWAY_LIGHTS_VASI_SCALAR=0.6SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80TransitionTime=4.000000UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30WideViewAspect=True[JOBSCHEDULER]AffinityMask=14[TERRAIN]AUTOGEN_DENSITY=2DETAIL_TEXTURE=1LOD_RADIUS=5.500000MESH_COMPLEXITY=100MESH_RESOLUTION=22TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=25WATER_EFFECTS=3[sCENERY]DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5LENSFLARE=1


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Using REX's weather engine on the same computer? try clearing weather and see if it helps.
The REX is on the same computer, but my weather engine is disabled. For some reason when i launch FSX it almost seems like REX is not even running as the sky doesnt look like what i chose.Bert and Paul,Guys thanks for posting your .cfg files i will see if either one of those help me out.

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I wouldn't use the shadows,they look bad, and kill performance.


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If someone can take a few minutes and just look at my cfg and settings id appreciate because i didnt spend all this money on upgrading to intel and a gtx 560 ti card for crappy performance. thank you in advance.[bufferPools]UsePools=1PoolSize=8388608RejectThreshold=262144 // 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If your fps is jumping between 10 and 80, the limiter is not working, so, as Bert and I have both said - lock your frames internally at 30.With your card and fast proc speed you won't notice the difference.I've personally almost abandoned the FPSLimiter_02, because it appears to actually control the fps 5 times out of 10. That's no good to me, so I've taken it out of most of my startup scripts.When it's working FSX is smooth as silk at 30. When it's not working fsx jumps all over the place, very roughly between 20 and 90: When I run fps locked at 30 inside the sim I get exactly the same smooth performance in the same areas, so why bother?It will probably help someone whose proc is at 4.0 gig or below, and so it would be worth playing around with.



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  1. Delete your current fsx.cfg file
  2. Set fps to 22 (!)
  3. No AI Traffic or cars
  4. No Aircraft shadows
  5. Autogen to dense
  6. Scenery density to Very Dense
  7. Water to 1x Low
  8. AI Traffic 25
  9. In REX your clouds to 512x512

Start with this. It is not that much taxing on your system.If you can't run this without your stutter than there is more to it. Like your HD is to slow , so FSX does not get all files loaded fast enough.Let us know what the above brings.Than we will take it from there.


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try running fsx without AffinityMask. My old Q6600 run fine without AffinityMask, but has major stutter with AffinityMask=14

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  1. Delete your current fsx.cfg file
  2. Set fps to 22 (!)
  3. No AI Traffic or cars
  4. No Aircraft shadows
  5. Autogen to dense
  6. Scenery density to Very Dense
  7. Water to 1x Low
  8. AI Traffic 25
  9. In REX your clouds to 512x512

Start with this. It is not that much taxing on your system.If you can't run this without your stutter than there is more to it. Like your HD is to slow , so FSX does not get all files loaded fast enough.Let us know what the above brings.Than we will take it from there.

GSalden,THank you for your post. I will try those settings and hope it gets me somewhere. All this statrted after i upgrade my system to my current rig. Previously i had a AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE at 4.02GHz and everything ran smooth. I installed the new motherboard,i5-2500k and GTX 560 TI and its stuttering all over, and I was under the impression the i5 was going to be greatly better then the AMD

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GSalden,I ran your propsed settings at KSEA, there is no huge stutters just minor lag, and i still have the black streaks flickering here and there in the distance.

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