I hope they will fix the power consumption issues. If they can improve that and boost overall performance by a 10% as announced, that should make for an interesting chip for years to come, especially in the server market, which is much bigger than the desktop market

Yep the power consumption is terrible , I feel it is a manufacturing error, 10% boost against which CPU ?

10% more than current BZ

10% more than current BZ

Sounds decent.

10% boost against which CPU ?

Intel 80286

When the last Radeon GPUs failed, despite bravado, to knock Fermi, flaws and all, off the extreme gaming throne, let alone Nvidia's superior followups, I was worried about this very thing. I think both AMD's major divisions are losing their wars. It's not just Intel that is getting a good shot at killing their direct competitor, Nvidia is too. AMD must reinvent itself or cease to exist. This is terrible news for consumers, no less troubling just because many suspected it might happen. As a direct market result, Intel prices (and maybe Nvidia's) will skyrocket while at the same time the strong competitive motive for new inovation dies.I hope Dazz is right and that the reports have got the wrong slant on this, but I think not. Watch Ivy Bridge stretch upwards in price, becoming perhaps a bridge too far for many of us. I am tempted not to even post this comment in this thread as it is negative and gloomy. But along with the general tettertotterishness of the whole economy, the facts are hard not to get in the way of confidence.Kind regardsPS:tettertotterishness, I like that word!

Just because most FSX users use Nvidia cards doesn't mean the last AMD GPU's have failed, they may not perform well under FSX but do well on most other game platforms, and from what I have read AMD is doing better than Nvidia a link here and many others reports on the web too http://www.ibtimes.c...vices-tesla.htm http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20012025-64.html AMD's GPU market is healthy let's hope it remains like that so we can still buy competitively priced Nvidia GPU's for FSX.

Just because most FSX users use Nvidia cards doesn't mean the last AMD GPU's have failed, they may not perform well under FSX but do well on most other game platforms, and from what I have read AMD is doing better than Nvidia a link here and many others reports on the web too http://www.ibtimes.c...vices-tesla.htm http://news.cnet.com...0012025-64.html AMD's GPU market is healthy let's hope it remains like that so we can still buy competitively priced Nvidia GPU's for FSX.

Sheesh, sure. Can you imagine if there was no competition in the GPU market? What would that be like!

Too much hyperbole going on here. I remember reading this article in the San Jose, CA newpaper:http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19358655.Make of it as you will, but definately no mention of AMD leaving the CPU/GPU business: