December 2, 201114 yr HelloIt is looking like AMD are pulling out of the CPU market.Now would be a good time for anyone thinking of going to Sandybridge to buy before the prices go upIntel will have no incentive to be competitive on pricing from here on in.http://www.techpowerup.com/155920/AMD-To-Give-Up-Competing-With-Intel-On-x86-CPU-Prices-Already-Shooting-Up.html
December 2, 201114 yr If this is going to be fact, then Intel prices will rise, without a doubt. But Intel will still need to sell products and have their customers upgrade. If CPUs become too expensive then IMO people will simply stick longer with their current CPU. HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
December 2, 201114 yr Author If this is going to be fact, then Intel prices will rise, without a doubt. But Intel will still need to sell products and have their customers upgrade. If CPUs become too expensive then IMO people will simply stick longer with their current CPU.HelloThe price rises are already happening, I have just checked my local supplier and the Sandybridge prices have already been raisedi52500K is now sitting at £199.99
December 2, 201114 yr AMD never said they're pulling out of the CPU market.Silverman already said that his comments have been blown out of proportion and misinterpretedhttp://www.extremetech.com/mobile/107133-amd-to-attempt-self-resurrection-but-not-with-armWhatever he meant in the first place, we will know by February All AMD has said so far about its new strategy -- which it has promised to detail in February -- is that it intends to pursue "growth opportunities" in low-powered devices, emerging markets and Internet-based businesses.This is the article that lit the fire:http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19358655AMD is way ahead of Intel in the APU sector. It makes no sense to pull out of the PC market at this point
December 2, 201114 yr When the last Radeon GPUs failed, despite bravado, to knock Fermi, flaws and all, off the extreme gaming throne, let alone Nvidia's superior followups, I was worried about this very thing. I think both AMD's major divisions are losing their wars. It's not just Intel that is getting a good shot at killing their direct competitor, Nvidia is too. AMD must reinvent itself or cease to exist. This is terrible news for consumers, no less troubling just because many suspected it might happen. As a direct market result, Intel prices (and maybe Nvidia's) will skyrocket while at the same time the strong competitive motive for new inovation dies.I hope Dazz is right and that the reports have got the wrong slant on this, but I think not. Watch Ivy Bridge stretch upwards in price, becoming perhaps a bridge too far for many of us. I am tempted not to even post this comment in this thread as it is negative and gloomy. But along with the general tettertotterishness of the whole economy, the facts are hard not to get in the way of confidence.Kind regardsPS:tettertotterishness, I like that word!
December 4, 201114 yr A new sandy bridge now should last someone 2-1/2 years, by then anything is possible. Waiting a few months might be costly...IOW, now seems a good time for anyone to upgrade if its been awhile...I am, after 4 years on the old machine and FS9Nothing special just a i5 2500k, 560ti, with new mobo, H5 water cooler, FSX etc. About as cheap as reasonable... 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
December 5, 201114 yr Until I see prices rise at major suppliers like newegg and microcenter, I'm not going to worry too much. Considering BD's performace, Intel has already had sufficient reason to raise prices and yet it hasn't happened. Nothing special just a i5 2500k, 560ti, with new mobo, H5 water cooler, FSX etc. About as cheap as reasonable...And about all that's necessary - well done! Corey Meeks FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W
December 5, 201114 yr by coincidence I have the exact mobo, cooler (H50), and power supply as cmeeks .Every component I copied from what users here at Avsim were recomending, so I don't get points for discovering anything :). 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
December 5, 201114 yr by coincidence I have the exact mobo, cooler (H50), and power supply as cmeeks .Every component I copied from what users here at Avsim were recomending, so I don't get points for discovering anything :).See what you have gone and done Corey? You made clones of yourself! How cool is that! Actually Fielder, you could do far worse than follow his recommendations and example.Kind regards,
December 5, 201114 yr Haha, I better upgrade my GPU before somebody follows that poor example! I was really hoping Kepler would be released by December. That, my monitor, and my h50 are all on the chopping block this year, though....and let's face it - once IB is released, I will probably sell my mobo/CPU and "upgrade" Corey Meeks FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W
December 5, 201114 yr ....Intel will have no incentive to be competitive on pricing from here on in.Well if no one buys these newly rised priced cpus they will not succeed
December 5, 201114 yr Guys check this thread. http://www.overclock.net/t/1179076/official-bulldozer-performance-updates-the-most-current-results-of-bulldozer-chipsI don't know if it's true but users having a BD are putting there performance charts. If AMD is crapping out on PC CPU market (IMO I doubt) then I am buying two spare Phenom's for my board. Heck I cannot afford intel atm. Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
December 5, 201114 yr Guys check this thread.http://www.overclock...bulldozer-chipsI don't know if it's true but users having a BD are putting there performance charts.If AMD is crapping out on PC CPU market (IMO I doubt) then I am buying two spare Phenom's for my board. Heck I cannot afford intel atm.There's no performance increase in those benchmarks that I can see.Disabling 1 cores per module (no CMT) has no bearing on single threaded performance as some suggest thereThis is one early review, 1.02 score on stock clocks, single threaded C11.5 with turbo @ 4.2GHz.At 5GHz, that would be some 1.2 points, he gets 1.22, so no gain at all.The scheduler fix and disabling APM combined provide a 10% boost more or less, and only in multi-threaded applications.I would wait for Piledriver, it's not so far down the line
December 5, 201114 yr There's no performance increase in those benchmarks that I can see.Disabling 1 cores per module (no CMT) has no bearing on single threaded performance as some suggest thereThis is one early review, 1.02 score on stock clocks, single threaded C11.5 with turbo @ 4.2GHz.At 5GHz, that would be some 1.2 points, he gets 1.22, so no gain at all.The scheduler fix and disabling APM combined provide a 10% boost more or less, and only in multi-threaded applications.I would wait for Piledriver, it's not so far down the lineDon't know what Piledriver is gonna be like. Hope it does not turn out bad. Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
December 5, 201114 yr Don't know what Piledriver is gonna be like. Hope it does not turn out bad.I hope they will fix the power consumption issues. If they can improve that and boost overall performance by a 10% as announced, that should make for an interesting chip for years to come, especially in the server market, which is much bigger than the desktop market
Create an account or sign in to comment