I did bring up this issue in a topic I posted earlier, and I hate to fill up the forums, but my previous question appears to have sunk out of notice and I now have just one last problem with the 737NGX, though I must admit it is keeping me from using it.Anyway, what's happening, as at least a few others have found, is that when a saved flight is loaded, the systems begin their 20-second initialization, during which the engines are shut off, causing the plane to fall 1000 feet or more. This isn't very conducive to a high-quality simulation--I don't have time to fly a whole flight at once, even a short one, so I depend upon the save flight option in FSX. I must say I am disappointed that having spent a good amount of money on this amazing simulation, all I can do is go through pre-flight procedures, take off, and climb a bit before I need to save it, after which I experience a very (of course) unrealistic temporary loss of power when it is reloaded.So my question is this: Does everybody else experience this, and is there any work-around?(Also, as a side note, if I purchased it today, does my installation include the latest service pack? If not, was this issue fixed in the latest one?)Thanks!

Bram,When you save a flight do you also save the "panel state"?What version (current build) of PMDG do you have now?

I'm not saving the panel state, but the panel state is coming back fine--it's the momentary loss of engine power that I'm getting. And anyway, doesn't the panel state have to be loaded manually?The readme says I have version 1.00.3118.Do you experience this same problem when loading a saved flight? I'm trying to find out if it's a bug in the software or it's something which only affects some people and can (hopefully) be worked around.

3118 is OK.The default PMDG panel state is engines running (and the panel should be lit off too. ... does it work?I use the cold and dark panel state ... it shuts down the engines too.I have not taken a flight (still reading and checking things out) and saved the FSX flight and the panel state.It is my understanding though, that you still have to re-establish some panel settings to continue flying ...

Hey,I have this problem too, and although it is a little annoying, I do not find it a problem that would be keeping me from using the product.What I do is, when the flight is loaded and the initializing process begins, I quickly shut down the autopilot and hand fly the thing for those 20 seconds. You basically have a giant glider in your hands at that time. But keeping it level during those 20 seconds without losing too much speed is not that hard. Once the initialization is done, the autopilot can be re-engaged and all is ok. Some tiny other details need to be cleaned up (like putting the gear lever into the mechanical locks instead of the loaded hydraulic locks).Obviously, when I need to save a flight to load it back up later, I make sure I do this while in cruise or descent. During climb this will be a little harder...The ideal thing is that PMDG would find a thing for the initialization process to work even when you pause the sim. That would solve the issue.Hope this helps.

Same here.I think it's an FSX issue. I never save and load, I am lucky enough to play 737 NGX without a single game crash.When I tried to save and load ( few times ) it was a total huge mess.

For me loading a saved flight is not working at all. If I load a flight (in flight) I just get a complete cold and dark cockpit, it even doesnt start the initialization. It also ignores any contoller input, so I can only sit and watch as it is gliding down into the ground... I also cant load a panel state, since also the FMC stays just black. But anyhow, it does not keep me away from flying. It is just a big bugger if I have a CTD (still does happen to me from time to time) during approach, usually I save my flight at T/C and T/D so I dont have to do the complete flight again. Then of course it is getting a bit frustrating.....Cheers,Chris

We all have same issue on reload of saved situation, I believe. My work-around is to save flight when "paused" first of all, and then when I reload it I first put it into slew mode and then release the pause. I lose the 20 seconds during the countdown but when it is finished engines and panel are correctly reset to what they were when I saved the situation but plane will remain in exactly same position and attitude. I now put "pause" back on and release the "slew" mode. I can then release "pause" and resume flight without killing any passengers (as long as the current wx is the same as when I saved the flight!) Hope that helps.

I've posted about this problem before. What makes it annoying for me is that I like to practice finals so I would basically load up and go screaming towards to the ground immediately. Then on some saved flights it'll tend to glide a bit more- might be related to the speed you're at when you save.

As well as having this annoying 20 seconds without engine power when I load in a saved flight, I get two further problems. Firstly, when the initialisation period finishes, the autopilot goes into violent pitch oscillations trying to recover the lost altitude. Secondly,I get three red lights showing that the undercarriage is unlocked. I have to recycle the undercarriage lever to clear these warning lights. Both of these faults are not show stoppers but do need fixing at some time.Chris Hall

As well as having this annoying 20 seconds without engine power when I load in a saved flight, I get two further problems. Firstly, when the initialisation period finishes, the autopilot goes into violent pitch oscillations trying to recover the lost altitude. Secondly,I get three red lights showing that the undercarriage is unlocked. I have to recycle the undercarriage lever to clear these warning lights. Both of these faults are not show stoppers but do need fixing at some time.Chris Hall

that's interesting because my autopilot is usually disengaged- so I just set V/S to +1000 to get back to my former altitude and then I reset A/P. I don't have the undercarriage issue either but I have seen what you're talking about on FS recorder replays

We all have same issue on reload of saved situation, I believe. My work-around is to save flight when "paused" first of all, and then when I reload it I first put it into slew mode and then release the pause. I lose the 20 seconds during the countdown but when it is finished engines and panel are correctly reset to what they were when I saved the situation but plane will remain in exactly same position and attitude. I now put "pause" back on and release the "slew" mode. I can then release "pause" and resume flight without killing any passengers (as long as the current wx is the same as when I saved the flight!) Hope that helps.

So it will still load up and start the engines during slew? I thought that might be the solution. I have to do this when loading a flight on one of my other planes to set some navigation equipment, so I thought it might help here.

Okay, I just tried that, and while it does help a lot, I still get a couple seconds of engine failure. Does this still happen to you, too?

We all have same issue on reload of saved situation, I believe. My work-around is to save flight when "paused" first of all, and then when I reload it I first put it into slew mode and then release the pause. I lose the 20 seconds during the countdown but when it is finished engines and panel are correctly reset to what they were when I saved the situation but plane will remain in exactly same position and attitude. I now put "pause" back on and release the "slew" mode. I can then release "pause" and resume flight without killing any passengers (as long as the current wx is the same as when I saved the flight!) Hope that helps.

An excellent solution; I wish I had thought of that before.

But it still seems to lead to a brief engine failure. Is there any way to avoid that?